Jumble
(Master Guide)
05/31/03 12:20 PM
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US Warships



USS Nautilus is on Display at Groton-New London. Many other submarines are docked to the north.

Can you locate The US Coast Guard Academy ?


Jumble
(Master Guide)
06/17/03 09:31 PM
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Re: US Warships

Just noticed the a floating drydock for subs at northern end of the US Navy Submarine Base. It seems active in this photo.

Jumble
(Master Guide)
06/21/03 04:26 PM
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Re: US Warships

Check out Connecticut College for Women, now just Connecticut College, just across the river. Not a girl in sight!

Jumble
(Master Guide)
06/22/03 06:44 PM
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Re: Many Carriers

Three Carriers tied up at Hampton Roads. They look tired, but usable. Lots of river activity.

Jumble
(Master Guide)
06/22/03 09:12 PM
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Re: Many Carriers

Three more at Bremerton. Could these be the same three on a different date?

esterrett
(Master Guide)
06/22/03 10:26 PM
Re: Many Carriers

The one on the middle has a bit of history behind it.

More info.


Jumble
(Master Guide)
06/23/03 01:31 PM
Re: Many Carriers

I sense wishful thinking! How can you tell what boat that is in the middle? No numbers visible and your info link tells about a great ship, and how it was sold for scrap years ago! Try again!

Jumble
(Master Guide)
06/23/03 01:38 PM
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Re: More Submarines

Over twenty subs at Bremerton plus two in the dry dock. This could be half the pacific submarine fleet.

esterrett
(Master Guide)
06/24/03 08:38 AM
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Re: Many Carriers

Number's on the bow. From the angle, it looked like 17, but after looking a little closer, I see that it is actually 41 (was reading it upside down as well.) See attached .eta for a better view.

That gives it considerable more history than the other. This is none other than the USS Midway- veteran of three wars (WW2, Vietnam and Desert Storm) and probably the holder of the record for the most peacetime onboard fires and explosions. MORE INFO

Quote:

Midway was decommissioned for the last time at North Island Naval Air Station in San Diego, California on April 11, 1992. She was stricken from the Navy List on March 17, 1997 and is now stored at the Navy Inactive Ship Maintenance Facility, Bremerton, Washington.





Jumble
(Master Guide)
06/24/03 09:08 PM
Re: Many Carriers

Esterett, thanks for the info on Midway. Looks like she'll be at Bremerton for a while. Too bad the other boats show no numbers. Will try to scope them out. Maybe Stiuskr can help!

esterrett
(Master Guide)
06/24/03 11:48 PM
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Re: US Warships

Got to looking around for some other retired carriers. Here's a couple at Newport, RI

USS Saratoga on the left, USS Forrestal on the right.

The Saratoga is actually the second carrier to bear that name. The first one was last seen near a certain south Pacific island just before a bright flash..

Anyone want to name the battleship berthed next door?


esterrett
(Master Guide)
06/24/03 11:55 PM
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Re: US Warships

Another blast from the past-

Hard to make out, but that's the USS Yorktown sitting in Charleston Bay.


esterrett
(Master Guide)
06/24/03 11:59 PM
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Re: US Warships

We're already familiar with the USS Intrepid in NY harbor.

esterrett
(Master Guide)
06/25/03 12:03 AM
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Re: US Warships

The USS Hornet at Almeda Point, SF Bay.

esterrett
(Master Guide)
06/25/03 12:10 AM
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Nope, that bluury thing in the middle isn't a manatee or a whale. It's the USS Lexington, sitting just off Corpus Christi Beach.

esterrett
(Master Guide)
06/25/03 12:13 AM
Re: Many Carriers

The other two are the USS Ranger and the USS Independence. Dunno which is which, but there they are.

esterrett
(Master Guide)
06/25/03 12:18 AM
Re: US Warships

That's it. Of the 77 carriers built by the US Navy, only these, the 12 on active duty and the two under construction remain.

stiuskr
(Master Guide)
06/25/03 10:00 AM
Re: US Warships

So nice to feel wanted. Such a warm feeling. Anywho, This is the best site I've found on Navy Warship history. Here's the page for history of all carriers ever commisioned up to CVN-73 George Washington. And here's the page for the battleships from the same site.

Submarines are harder to find, but they're supposed to be I guess. This is the best site for subs that I've found


Jumble
(Master Guide)
06/25/03 12:03 PM
Re: US Warships

Esterrett,Stiuskr,Lunatech.....are you guys Navy or what? This thread is terrific. I myself was 2 years active duty US Navy (LtCmndr) during Viet Nam (Drafted), and have been nautical and aeronautical ever since. Anxious for any additional finds! Thanks.

lunatech
(Cartographer)
06/25/03 02:57 PM
Re: Blue Ghost

You know, I looked for the Blue Ghost at Corpus Christie...I went on the tour twice when I was there back in 99. Awesome structure, the first carrier I ever saw with my own eyes, couldn't get enough. But the blurry picture looked, as you say, Esterrett, like a whale. Don't know why it looks so bent.

At the Science and History Museum down the canal you can stand on the deck of the replica Santa Maria or the Pinta and look over to the Lexington (and the supertankers out on the horizon)...quite a contrast.

Sure wish it was in high rez!


lunatech
(Cartographer)
06/25/03 03:31 PM
Re: US Warships

Not me Jumble...just a fan of US military technology and history, sure is a thrill to see the pics and find the links...

esterrett
(Master Guide)
06/25/03 06:10 PM
Re: US Warships

Nope, did my time at +30, 000 feet AGL.

stiuskr
(Master Guide)
06/25/03 06:40 PM
Re: US Warships

Nor I, had other "priorities" when I was of age. Kinda wished I had, though, but would have been boring as this would have happened in the late 70's. Boring's not the right word, but that was an uneventful time. Would have had to been a merc to see any action. Have been a student of military hardware all along, especially aircraft. After all, Chuck Yeager was born and bred just a few miles from my hometown. As far as fact retrieval goes, all credit belongs to Google Advanced search, just gotta know what to ask it!

Jumble
(Master Guide)
06/25/03 06:57 PM
Re: US Battleships

Newport Battleship named for MidWestern State and the first of a whole class of similar boats. This one has a great history, marred by a fatal accident that resulted in the Navy Brass's most notorious cover-up. I AWAIT endlessly for someone else to name this famous ship. Great find!

stiuskr
(Master Guide)
06/25/03 07:47 PM
Re: US Battleships

And blindfolded too!!!



Jumble
(Master Guide)
06/25/03 08:09 PM
Re: US Battleships

Scorchingly familiar photo, Stiuskr. See Esterrett's post above for view of the whole boat with USS Forrestal and Saratoga!

stiuskr
(Master Guide)
06/25/03 09:48 PM
Re: US Battleships

Now I see where this originated. This thread's getting so long somebodies gonna have to draw a map, I'm getting lost. You know how it is with us men and directions. "Maps? We don't need no stinking maps!"

edited for clarification...


Jumble
(Master Guide)
06/25/03 10:15 PM
Re: US Battleships

Yeah, who could possibly be interested in maps?

Jumble
(Master Guide)
06/27/03 01:41 PM
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Re: US Warships

Hospital Ship Mercy at San Diego. There is a twin ship berthed on the east coast, but I don't see it. It may be in the Middle East
USNS Mercy Info


Jumble
(Master Guide)
06/29/03 09:57 AM
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Re: US Navy Hospital ships

Here is the East Coast Hospital Ship Comfort, presumably back from Middle East, or maybe just before departing as shown Here .

Jumble
(Master Guide)
06/29/03 08:48 PM
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Re: US Warships

Many Mothballed vessels at closed Philadelphia Naval Base, home to countless vessels over the years, including the USS Eldridge, made invisible during The Philadelphia Experiment

LraeAdministrator
(Master Wizard)
06/30/03 12:03 AM
Re: US Warships

And a link to a previous post. There is an aircraft carrier in the gang of rusting ships in the second attachment... What's her name?

lunatech
(Cartographer)
06/30/03 11:16 AM
Re: US Warships

Wow, and I thought the Philly Experiment was just a great movie concept...not a real rumour! Fictional fact is stranger than well...fiction!

Anonymous
(Unregistered)
06/30/03 12:22 PM
Re: US Warships

I was puzzled as to how you knew it was the Naurtilus (to my old eyes it is a kind of long black shadow). However, Google pointed me to

http://www.ussnautilus.org/

and the picture there makes things clear.


Anonymous
(Unregistered)
06/30/03 04:08 PM
Re: US Warships

Great Nautilus web site! First time I've seen it. Thanks!! I drove to New London and toured the ship, which is how I located it on EV!

PS. Please get yourself a screen handle so we can relate!


Jumble
(Master Guide)
06/30/03 04:11 PM
Re: US Warships

Above non-handled post is really mine. Forgot to login! Maybe you forgot too!!!

Jumble
(Master Guide)
06/30/03 04:21 PM
Re: US Warships

Lrae, as usual, you were there before us all. Where were you to remind us of this when we posted the Newport carriers, and the USS Iowa eta's above? Up boring holes in the sky as usual, I guess. Or were you diving a wreck?

Jumble
(Master Guide)
07/01/03 09:12 PM
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Re: US Warships

Getting back to Navy Battleships, here is the USS New Jersey in New Jersey being readied to become a floating museum in Camden. It has been moved from this berth to a new site up the Delaware River just south of the next bridge, directly opposite Philadelphia waterfront. USS New Jersey

LraeAdministrator
(Master Wizard)
07/04/03 12:02 PM
Re: US Warships

I think I answered the "Where in the world is Lrae" question in this post. You folks have been doing all my work for me, I do feel left out, but as the lyrics in this Carly Simon song go... "I'm proud just to know you".

His friends are more than fond of Robin
He doesn't need to compliment them
And always as he leaves he leaves them
Feeling proud just to know him

When Robin goes on holiday
There's no-one livin' in our lane
Oh yes, folks still live in our lane
But they're not like Robin

Robin, i've never told you
But i'll be yours until we're old
Please learn to call me in your dreams
The way i'm lookin' at you is just as it seems

He's talked about before he gets there
Though he can never understand it
And i wouldn't like to be his alone
But i'm shy and can't demand it

But when robin gives his love to others
There's no-one living in my heart
Oh yes, i keep others in my heart
But they're not like Robin

So keep up the good work, and I'll drop in to help with the toughies when I have the time.


Jumble
(Master Guide)
07/04/03 06:00 PM
Re: US Warships

You're so vain! Welcome back, Lrae!

Jumble
(Master Guide)
07/04/03 09:45 PM
Re: US Warships

Note the Battleship Texas in Gulo's post on San Jacinto State Park . It's off to the left.

visu
(Tourist)
07/07/03 05:14 PM
Re: US Warships

Do people in the Groton area pronounce the river Thames as ThAmz or as Temz?

Jumble
(Master Guide)
07/07/03 06:10 PM
Re: US Warships

Good question Vesuvius. I think it is "Themms". We don't want our subs going under the Tower Bridge. Here is corroboration!

visu
(Tourist)
08/11/03 12:32 PM
Re: US Warships

I saw a reference to the Thames of Ontario, Canada, recently and was reminded of this thread.
I sent a note to

"Cathy Quinlan" (quinlanc@thamesriver.on.ca ) about the Ontario Thames and received:

"Yes, the Thames of Ontario was names after the river in England by Lt.
Gov. John Graves Simcoe (around 1780).

It is pronounced "Temz" as in England. So many folks get it wrong.

Hope that helps,

Cathy Quinlan
Upper Thames River Conservation Authority"




I also sent a note to "Reference Librarian" (reference@grotonpl.libraryofconnecticut.org)
about the Connecticut Thames and received:

"In Groton we pronounce the Thames River like James except with a
TH in front instead of the J."


Jumble
(Master Guide)
08/11/03 04:12 PM
Re: US Warships

So it's "Thaymz" in Connecticut, and "Temz" everywhere else! You would think they might pronounce themselves "connektikut"!

Great research,Visu. Commendable tenacity! We all learned something. Let's keep on rollin' along!


lunatech
(Cartographer)
08/11/03 10:32 PM
Thames

Aye, I used to live on the Thames (actually Upper Thames) in London, Ontario. (pronounced Temz, as you say!) Just north east of us was the Avon River, and the city of Stratford, home of the world famous Shakespeare Theatre. Can ye get any more original?

Jumble
(Master Guide)
08/30/03 05:32 PM
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Re: What land-locked ship is this?

Found this destroyer near Las Vegas. Seems to have been launched into a dry lake....and sank....sideways. Is this artwork, or a coincidence?

LraeAdministrator
(Master Wizard)
08/30/03 05:43 PM
Re: What land-locked ship is this?

That's pretty impressive. Wonder what they be a fishin for?

seerAdministrator
(Master Chronicler)
08/31/03 08:56 AM
Re: What land-locked ship is this?

Fossil fish, obviously! Why else would they be anchored near Azure Drive and Pole Line Road?



LraeAdministrator
(Master Wizard)
08/31/03 09:03 AM
Re: What land-locked ship is this?

GOOD ANSWER!!

And who said Seer didn't have a sense of humor?


Anonymous
(Unregistered)
09/05/03 04:27 PM
The Last Battleship

USS Missouri finally appears at its new home near the USS Arizona Memorial at Pearl Harbor. It was the last battleship to sail the earth's oceans, and, of course, was the site of the signing of the Japanese surrender on the last day of World War II.

Jumble
(Master Guide)
09/05/03 04:29 PM
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Re: The Last Battleship:

Naturally, I forgot to login for the above post, and quite predictably failed to attach the placemark. Here is a link to the USS Missouri Memorial site.

Check out the ship's history!


nikt
(Tourist)
09/18/03 02:38 AM
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Re: US Warships north of Mercy ship!? > 30!!

I hope I'm not wrecking the surprise for anyone, but you neglected to mention the > 30 warships including carriers directly south of the mercy ship - keep going down, and when you come to the coast at the end of the ships, theres a massive car yard.

nikt
(Tourist)
09/18/03 02:43 AM
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Re: US Warships Leonardo Piers, Naval Weapons Stn.

Here's two cool ones at Leonardo Piers, Naval Weapons Station (NWS), Earle, New Jersey.


nikt
(Tourist)
09/18/03 02:49 AM
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Speaking of cars and ships...

A little off-topic but heres some cars loading onto a ship.

Norwegian
(Tourist)
09/18/03 09:10 AM
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Re: Speaking of cars and ships...

and here are som beautiful cruise liners

Anonymous
(Unregistered)
10/09/03 06:46 AM
Re: US Warships

The battleship is probably USS Iowa (Now moved to Suisan Bay, San Francisco)

Jumble
(Master Guide)
10/13/03 09:17 PM
Re: US Warships

Confused about USS Iowa in New Orleans. To my knowledge she was never there nor was she part of the James River Ghost Fleet, at least not while Keyhole's birds were overhead. She has been spotted by EV in numerous places. Lrae's post tells most of the story. Yes, she is in Suisan Bay now.

Jumble
(Master Guide)
10/25/03 12:50 PM
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Re: What happened to Navy?

One night, exactly 80 years ago, an event happened here that became the largest peace time disaster in US Navy history. Only 23 sailors died, but the blow to the service was both enormous and disgraceful.

esterrett
(Master Guide)
10/25/03 06:12 PM
Re: What happened to Navy?

I don't suppose any of the survivors was named Smallwood?

Jumble
(Master Guide)
10/27/03 05:50 PM
Re: What happened to Navy?

There were hundreds of human survivors. Maybe one was named Smallwood, but who knows? No Navy ships with that name. This is an actual photo of the eta the next morning:

Pretty impressive! Any ideas?




aladdin
(World Explorer)
11/01/03 09:34 PM
Re: What happened to Navy?

By coincidence, I came across this a few weeks ago when unsuccessfully trying to "Earthview" a mural in Lompoc, which I read about in the Auto Club's Westways Magazine, November/December 2003. Mural Link.

Here's just some of the destruction, as seen from shore, with flagship U.S.S. Delphy in the foreground.



It all happened in about 7 minutes on a dark foggy night. 14 destroyers were traveling south in a single column at 20 knots. The separation between each ship, stern to bow, was about 147 yards - 13 seconds at that speed. A navigation error by the Delphy crashed it into the rocks of the "Devil's Jaw", with most of the other ships following right behind.

Besides the 23 lives and 7 destroyers, it was a $13.5 million loss (in 1923 dollars.) The remains were sold to a salvager for $1,035 two years later. More information here.

Some of these facts are from Great Naval Disasters and Warship Boneyards by Kit Bonner. (Try Amazon.Com "Search Inside" - Wow!)

Thanks for the interesting exercise, Jumble! (Now, maybe Esterrett can explain who Smallwood is. )




esterrett
(Master Guide)
11/02/03 08:02 AM
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Re: Smallwood

Here's your Smallwood clues:

1. Big Boat
2. 100 Proof
3. Big Rocks
4. Time for a nap.
5. Oops!



Detailed Info ::HERE ::


Jumble
(Master Guide)
11/02/03 10:31 AM
Re: Smallwood

Here's Aladdin's Mural:

Terrifically epic depiction of Honda Point disaster! I did not know of it! Carpetman, great work as usual. Ester, now I get it. Great analogy re: ship command. I regret my dense reply. But wouldn't Hazelwood have been better? ::More info::


esterrett
(Master Guide)
11/02/03 11:19 AM
Re: Smallwood

I'm shocked that I didn't pick that up.. I haven't a clue how that happened.

Musta been one of those foggy night encounters..


aladdin
(World Explorer)
11/02/03 11:23 AM
Re: Smallwood

As many as 26 big ships have been wrecked at Point Honda, in the area known as the Devil's Jaws.

Captain Edward H. Watson , from everything I've read, has earned a bit more sympathy for the tragic accident on September 8, 1923.

Quote:


Captain Watson energetically organized rescue and survival measures for the several hundred shipwrecked Sailors and subsequently took full responsibility for the actions that led to the tragedy.

Though the ensuing court martial resulted in the loss of all chance for further promotion, Captain Watson's willing acceptance of command responsibility and his display of great personal character in a situation of considerable adversity were widely admired in and out of the Naval Service.





Anonymous
(Unregistered)
03/03/04 11:55 AM
Re: US carriers- got one more for ya

check out the one hidden in the line up at the mothball fleet across from the martinez bride,calif up and to the right.

i used to live there for years, and i know its still there.


Jumble
(Master Guide)
03/04/04 02:01 PM
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Re: US carriers- got one more for ya

Good find, Anonoguy. You're referring to the helicopter ship USS New Orleans at Soisan Bay. Near Ester's own ship.

Looks like this fine ship will soon become a home for the fishes! (For informative previous post on the area click here! )


Anonymous
(Unregistered)
03/16/04 12:07 PM
Re: What land-locked ship is this?

I just found your reference to the "destroyer" left in the desert, and had to chuckle. It does look like a ship. In reality itis a flood control area at the base of the mountains. I live just a few miles from there. I assume you were just goofin as to what it was. Hope this clears up another "Philadelphia experiment" conspiricy

seerAdministrator
(Master Chronicler)
03/16/04 12:21 PM
Re: What land-locked ship is this?

Thanks for the ground truth! As you surmise, those posters were just having a laugh. It is interesting, though, how different things often appear from above. Some Keyhole users just "fly around" and look for odd-looking things to share. This "ship" was one of those.

esterrett
(Master Guide)
03/16/04 04:22 PM
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Re: What land-locked ship is this?

found this nearby as well..

Who does this remind you of?




osc3
(Tourist)
03/31/04 09:07 PM
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Re: The Last Battleship

If I'm not mistaken the USS Iowa was the last battleship to fire it's 16-inch guns (at Lebanon in the 1980's). She was retired after a tragic explosion in her forward gun turret resulted in the death of many sailors. The investigation into the cause was a dark day for the US Navy, and she ended here at the mothball fleet near Martinez, CA. I have sailed close to her several times, and she still has that lethal quality about her.

Jumble
(Master Guide)
03/31/04 10:21 PM
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Re: The Last Battleship

Oscar, good find! Actually because photos from above are taken at different dates, Iowa appear to be present at at least two locations at the same time!! Check out Lrae's post here! Also of interest is this post and it's reply. I believe the IOWA was indeed the last battleship built and was decomissioned in 1990. The USS New Jersey , an IOWA "Class" boat served off of Lebanon
Quote:

On 8 February 1984, New Jersey fired almost 300 shells at Druze and Syrian positions in the Bekka Valley east of Beirut. Some 30 of these massive projectiles rained down on a Syrian command post, killing the general commanding Syrian forces in Lebanon and several other senior officers. This was the heaviest shore bombardment since the Korean War.


New Jersey is located on the Delaware River at Camden, New Jersey (Placemark) Ship has since moved away from placemark. See post below.
The Missouri was the last such boat to see combat..during Persian Gulf War.
Quote:

During the Persian Gulf War five years later, the battleship again saw active service, when her guns and missiles were used against military targets in Iraq. In 1992, the Missouri was decommissioned for the second time





St_Louis_Hawk
(Collection Editor)
04/08/04 12:25 AM
U.S.S. Missouri photos: 1: The big guns (was: Re: The Last Battleship) *DELETED*

Post deleted by St_Louis_Hawk

Netmonkey
(Tourist)
04/12/04 10:00 AM
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Re: Speaking of cars and ships...

Also known as the Tsawwassen terminal for BC Ferries, one of the largest ferry systems in the world. The other major terminal on the BC mainland is here, Horseshoe Bay in West Vancouver.

osc3
(Tourist)
04/13/04 07:09 PM
Re: Smallwood

Don't you mean Hazelwood, skipper of the Exxon Valdez?

Jdbo
(Cartographer)
05/17/04 01:15 PM
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Re: The Last Battleship:

Unless I have overlooked it, this thread being nice and orderly (!) here's the USS Wisconsin , the next-to-last battleship, safely berthed with its forward turret aimed at Gen. Douglas MacArthur's memorial and tomb, the white domed building 3 blocks east!

Jumble
(Master Guide)
09/19/04 09:46 AM
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Re: US Warships

USS New Jersey placemarked above before Philadelpha update, has now been moved from refitting dock to its permanent location on the Camden, NJ Waterfront, opposite Philadelphia. It is placemarked here at that location. Refitting dock is now empty!

Jdbo
(Cartographer)
09/20/04 10:13 AM
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Re: US Warships - task for JumbOracle

I've looked at this ship, and looked at this ship. I see three batteries of three large guns each, yet at a mere 123.9 smoots (+/- an ear), and other tell-tale signs, it's not a battleship. A heavy cruiser?

Next time you're sitting on the dock of the bay, Jumbo, how about id'ing this thing so I can have rest?


Jumble
(Master Guide)
09/20/04 10:24 AM
Re: US Warships - task for JumbOracle

JediGuy, the ship is the real Battleship McCoy. Maybe the resolution is not high enough for a good make. Check out this site. for more info.

Good thing you're not a sub captain!


Jdbo
(Cartographer)
09/20/04 10:47 AM
Re: US Warships - task for JumbOracle

Thanks, your Jumbness!

But tell me: how did the New Jersey grow to an impressive 152.9 smoots (+/- an earwig) simply by moving from the Reserve yard to Camden? And if Philly has been updated, (and it certainly has) why is this mystery ship, this Keyhole Flying Dutchman, still in the Reserve Basin?

I'd have been great as a sub captain (except for the claustrophobia and all). I would have set a new sub standard.


Jumble
(Master Guide)
09/20/04 12:10 PM
Re: US Warships - task for JumbOracle

Captain Jed:Your measurement at ships present location is close to the official Smoots listed by USN for this vessel, and this is standard length in Smoots for Iowa class Battleships. I am at work with no access to EV so I can't look at your "Flying Dutchman". However, it is quite possible that during refitting the "New Jersey" had to lose a few Smoots for contruction purposes, and then these smoots were replaced after the original photo.

Also, considering it's the Navy, it is likely that the Smoot standard, a la MIT, was misapplied by the bureaucracy, which did not go back to the standard post Viet Nam Smoot

as a reference when converting old ships to dockside museums!


Jdbo
(Cartographer)
09/20/04 08:25 PM
Re: US Warships - task for JumbOracle

Well, I can't find the smootage for this Heavy Gun Cruiser, the USS Chicago, but it clearly is a doozie:


AND there's another shape similar to this in storage at Bremerton. Links later.

This ship was built over in Camden just as was the New Jersey. It was converted in the 1960's to a Missile Cruiser.

So, is the mysterious Keyhole Flying Dutchman one of these?

Stay tuned!


LraeAdministrator
(Master Wizard)
09/20/04 08:33 PM
Re: US Warships - task for JumbOracle

Smoots or Snots.... I'm still a little old fashioned and prefer FEET.

Iowa Class Battlewagons {USS Iowa (BB-61), USS New Jersey (BB-62), USS Missouri (BB-63), USS Wisconsin (BB-64)} are supposed to be 887 FEET long. And as you can plainly see in this thread the Iowa (which all others are measured by) is 887 feet long.

So, why is this ship only 715 FEET long? Also it seems a bit narrower in the beam.


Jdbo
(Cartographer)
09/20/04 08:38 PM
Re: US Warships - task for JumbOracle

Just so, OracleRay. Too short, narrow at the beam, no "bulb" bow, and a square stern.

But then what the heck is it?


Jdbo
(Cartographer)
09/20/04 09:24 PM
Re: US Warships - EUREKA!

I found it. It was a cruiser, the USS Des Moines CA-134 (called the "Daisy Mae").


It has been in the Reserve Basin in Philly for over 30 years, but may be moving to the waterfront in Milwaukee.

Read all about it.


Jumble
(Master Guide)
09/20/04 09:45 PM
Re: US Warships - EUREKA!

Great work Jediguy!! Only you could answer your own question. I, the Philly guy, could not pull it off. Lrae was probably only moments away. You deserve a cruise!! ...and why not ID all the ships in the Philadelphia Navy Shipyard?

LraeAdministrator
(Master Wizard)
09/20/04 09:47 PM
Re: US Warships - task for JumbOracle

Ah ha... Found it...
USS Des Moines and more.



Well, that's what I get for leaving the stupid computer for a movie... and coming back to my post and then finding other answers after mine, but before I hit the enter key...


esterrett
(Master Guide)
09/20/04 11:35 PM
Re: US Warships - task for JumbOracle

Perhaps they took it the long way around, cruising the Gulf Stream for a bit.. the warmer water would have heated the steel, which expanded..

nahhh.. never mind..


esterrett
(Master Guide)
09/20/04 11:38 PM
Re: US Warships - task for JumbOracle

Exactly how many snots are there to a foot?

And no, I'm not going to line any up to find out for myself..



esterrett
(Master Guide)
09/21/04 12:01 AM
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Re: US Warships - task for JumbOracle

No rest for the weary.. once you've got this one solved, how about tackling the one on the opposite side of the anchorage.

That looks to me like a carrier- an old one, but a carrier. There is a 12 on the bow, but it isn't the USS Hornet- not long enough, and the Hornet is sitting at Alameda Point.

That isn't CV 21 either-- the USS Boxer was scrapped back in '71, and this one isn;t long enough anyway by about 300 feet (3.4 million snots?).





Jdbo
(Cartographer)
09/21/04 04:38 AM
Re: US Warships - task for JumbOracle

Thanks, though, to Loracle, Joracle, and all others who took on the search. I think the collective psi waves probably helped me look in the right places.

Jdbo
(Cartographer)
09/21/04 10:39 AM
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Re: US Warships - Another Heavy Cruiser

Now that I know what I'm looking for, here's the USS Salem, CA-139, a sister ship of the Daisy Mae (Des Moines) that caused me all those sleepless nights.

See the site.


Jdbo
(Cartographer)
09/21/04 10:48 AM
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Re: US Warships -A ghostly heavy cruiser?LEGACY DB

Identifiable by its shape and length (715 feet, plus or minus a centi-Smoot) here looks to be the hull of yet another Heavy Cruiser. Looks stripped of most superstructure and armament, but still an impressive ship.

LraeAdministrator
(Master Wizard)
09/21/04 11:36 AM
Re: US Warships - task for JumbOracle

How about this one?


esterrett
(Master Guide)
09/21/04 04:45 PM
Re: US Warships - task for JumbOracle


Heckalopters?! Who'da thunk..

All that time googling aircraft carriers, and never once thought of that..



Jumble
(Master Guide)
09/25/04 11:24 AM
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Re: Barbel Class Submarine

The USS Blueback , permanently docked for tours at Portland.

At launch(1959), new hull design , influenced future subs.
Just ashore is the Oregon Museum of Science and Industry , which owns the boat.


Jumble
(Master Guide)
09/26/04 10:07 AM
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Re: Land torpedo!

Lrae, with his usual acumen, has identified this land-locked boat in Vancouver, Washington.

lamscalatx
(Tourist)
10/31/04 10:50 AM
Re: US Warships - task for JumbOracle

Found it. It's the LPH / MCS-12 Inchon. Iwo Jima Class Amphibious Assault Ship (Helicopter) / Inchon Class Mine Countermeasures Command and Support Ship

http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/1112.htm


lamscalatx
(Tourist)
10/31/04 10:54 AM
Re: US Warships

The carrier in Suisun Bay Mothball Fleet is the LPH-11 New Orleans.
http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/1111.htm


Jumble
(Master Guide)
10/31/04 07:53 PM
Re: The Last Battleship:

Photo link to memorial blocked above. Here is closest refresh I could find:


Resized your image a little, Jim


harrisjw
(Tourist)
12/03/04 08:43 PM
Re: More Submarines

Submarines at Bremerton aren't part of the Pacific Fleet, they're decommissioned and awaiting being cut up as pa