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balmerbay
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Luck in Denver [Re: KenBarbalace]
      #1081913 - 12/27/07 11:04 AM

This person was one lucky dog!

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Re: [Re: NCJIM]
      #1081928 - 12/27/07 11:31 AM

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Re: InternetSAR.org: Search for Ron Boychuk [Re: LJeanL]
      #1081951 - 12/27/07 12:08 PM

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Obviously, I missed the live version, but is the radio show archived, or at least a transcript available?




If you go to the radios website and sign up you can go into their archives section and listen to the interview. You query by day and time slot for the interview. He was on the 26th at the 4pm slot. On my windows media player he came on around 35 minutes into th hour.

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Ken, I got your PM about doing the copywriting for the history and tutorial for the site but it looks like supersquint is still planning to do the tutorial part.




I'm looking for help writing components of the site. Please let me know if you are interested. The main part i'm focusing on right now is the tutorial and testing. While I can cover the test and basic,intermediate, and advanced components of imagery analysis I would like help with other components such as vegetation analysis (blue penguin's specialty).

There is also a section of the site devoted to internetsar.org if someone wants to write a few paragraphs for that unless Ken wants to write that himself.

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Re: InternetSAR.org: Search for Ron Boychuk [Re: supersquint]
      #1081978 - 12/27/07 12:59 PM

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There is also a section of the site devoted to internetsar.org if someone wants to write a few paragraphs for that unless Ken wants to write that himself.



Ya, like I have time for that.

What I was looking for wasn't so much a full blow IA tutorial so much as more of a Google Earth tutorial with screen captures helping people understand the basics. Kind of in between a full fledged IA manual and our current "getting started" I need stuff that can be directly on InternetSAR.org so that it can be part of my menuing system and people don't get lost by ending up on another site. The questions I'm getting are things like "how do I zoom in", "why are the images so dark", "how to turn on and off overlays", etc. Eventually having some pages directly on InternetSAR.org showing crash sites and giving basic IA instruction will also be important, but we have so much to work on right now that we have to prioritize.

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InternetSAR.org: Volunteers collaboratively analyzing aerial and satellite imagery to assist in search and rescue efforts.
DISCUSS ACTIVE SEARCHES: Ron Boychuk in British Columbia, Canada & Steve Fossett in Nevada, USA

My blog posts on my MTurk search experience:
Using the Internet to Revolutionize Search and Rescue
Internet search for Steve Fossett eight weeks later


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Re: InternetSAR.org: Search for Ron Boychuk [Re: KenBarbalace]
      #1081986 - 12/27/07 01:13 PM

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Quote:


There is also a section of the site devoted to internetsar.org if someone wants to write a few paragraphs for that unless Ken wants to write that himself.



Ya, like I have time for that.

What I was looking for wasn't so much a full blow IA tutorial so much as more of a Google Earth tutorial with screen captures helping people understand the basics. Kind of in between a full fledged IA manual and our current "getting started" I need stuff that can be directly on InternetSAR.org so that it can be part of my menuing system and people don't get lost by ending up on another site. The questions I'm getting are things like "how do I zoom in", "why are the images so dark", "how to turn on and off overlays", etc. Eventually having some pages directly on InternetSAR.org showing crash sites and giving basic IA instruction will also be important, but we have so much to work on right now that we have to prioritize.




Ah, ok. I'm unsure what everyone else is tasked to do at the moment so I assumed that we were talking about the other tutorial stuff.

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locations [Re: supersquint]
      #1081999 - 12/27/07 01:29 PM

Simple overview showing location of areas we keep hearing about.


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Re: InternetSAR.org: Search for Ron Boychuk [Re: supersquint]
      #1082001 - 12/27/07 01:32 PM

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Ah, ok. I'm unsure what everyone else is tasked to do at the moment so I assumed that we were talking about the other tutorial stuff.




I think this is the nature of the way this week is going to go. I feel like I've been caught in blizzard with only a hand trowel to dig out with. We now have over 330 users compared to only 40 yesterday morning.

Things are starting to quiet down as I get glitches ironed out. The stupid security code is still giving me some problems but it is getting better. It seems some browsers are ignoring my instructions to not cache the image.


What we need is for everyone to pipe in and list what they are working on so that we can organize ourselves a little better. We need to pick off the lowest hanging fruit first and then start working on deeper stuff.

Tasks at hand:

For the Boychuk search effort wen need to organize our intel so that I can update the main post of this thread.

For InternetSAR.org we need to prioritize the writing assignments.

My short run tasks are:
1) finish tuning the placement of current overlays for the Boychuk search.

2) program in side menu flags so that report evaluators know how many reports are waiting to be evaluated for each search effort.

3) program in email alerts for senior evaluators and search teams so that they know when reports make it to their levels.

4) finish my boundary generator so that people can see what area is covered by each image set.

5) program in flexibility for changing image set assignment order. Currently image sets are assigned on a first in first out basis. I need the flexibility to change the order image sets are assigned based on our best intel. I also need the ability to reassign image sets that need multiple passes (like most of the Boychuk imagery).

6) develop back end admin tools for importing image set data and adjusting image set layout. Currently I have to do this all manually via MySQL query browser, which means I can't hand off any of these tasks to others in the event of my absence.

I figure that this is a good two to three weeks of programming.

--edit--
After though:

One thing we need is a page written that is targeted towards search teams with active searches underway that invites them to make use of our services. It needs to emphasize that our services are at little to no cost (possibly web hosting fees but I'm trying to avoid this) and that we can work with them to acquire aerial imagery from third party sources. It needs to be clear that while our services come at little or no cost that our services do not include the imagery acquisition, which is handled by third parties. It also needs to emphasize that it is best if we are brought in before the imagery is acquired so that we can ensure the best possible imagery quality and locations.

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InternetSAR.org: Volunteers collaboratively analyzing aerial and satellite imagery to assist in search and rescue efforts.
DISCUSS ACTIVE SEARCHES: Ron Boychuk in British Columbia, Canada & Steve Fossett in Nevada, USA

My blog posts on my MTurk search experience:
Using the Internet to Revolutionize Search and Rescue
Internet search for Steve Fossett eight weeks later

Edited by KenBarbalace (12/27/07 03:02 PM)


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Re: Luck in Denver [Re: balmerbay]
      #1082068 - 12/27/07 03:48 PM

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This person was one lucky dog!

No Prop




A real good reason more than one engine is best...and really important at night, in weather or over mountains...

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Re: InternetSAR.org: Search for Ron Boychuk [Re: supersquint]
      #1082071 - 12/27/07 03:55 PM

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While I can cover the test and basic,intermediate, and advanced components of imagery analysis I would like help with other components such as vegetation analysis (blue penguin's specialty).




Heck, I can't tell the difference between a Plane and a blue tarp...

But I do know what a yellow CAT looks like...

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Re: InternetSAR.org: Search for Ron Boychuk [Re: vanaj]
      #1082104 - 12/27/07 04:38 PM

Quote:

Quote:

While I can cover the test and basic,intermediate, and advanced components of imagery analysis I would like help with other components such as vegetation analysis (blue penguin's specialty).




Heck, I can't tell the difference between a Plane and a blue tarp...

But I do know what a yellow CAT looks like...




My vote is you fly up to some of these places anyways and send back some pictures... It seems a lot prettier than the Sagebrush.


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