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The English philologist, Sir John Bowring (1792-1872), spoke many languages: Hungarian was one of them. He translated many Hungarian poems into English, and issued a literary chrestomathy. In its foreword he wrote the following (credit):
"The Magyar language stands afar off and alone. The study of other tongues will be found of exceedingly little use towards its right understanding. It is moulded in a form essentially its own, and its construction and composition may be safely referred to an epoch when most of the living tongues of Europe either had no existence, or no influence on the Hungarian region."
POETRY OF THE MAGYARS,
Preceded by a Sketch of the Language and Literature of Hungary and Transylvania
by John Bowring, London: Printed for the Author, 1830. Preface 6.
Variety 'from the street', anonym handout:
"Would you be able forget this language?
The Hungarian language goes far back. It developed in a very peculiar manner, and its structure reaches back to times most of the spoken European languages did not even exist. It is a language in which there is a logic and mathematics with the adaptability and malleability of strength and chords. The Englishmann should be proud that this language indicates an epic of human history. One can show fort his origin, and alien layers can be distinguished in it, which gathered together during the contacts with different nations. Whereas the Hungarian language is like a rubble stone, consisting of only one piece on which the storm of time left not scratch. It is not a calendar that adjusts to the changes of ages. This language is the oldest and most glorious monument of national sovereignty and mental independence.
What scholars could not solve, they ignore. In philology it the same as in archeology. The floors of the old Egyptian temples which wewre made out of the a single rock cannot be explained. No one knows where they came from, from which mountain the wondrous mass was taken, or how they were transported and lifted in place in the temples. The geouiness of the Hungarian language is much more wondrous than this. He who solves it shall be analyzing the divine secret:
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
Sir John Bowring
english philologist
(1792-1872)
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related (in hungarian):
Marácz László: A finnugor elmélet tarthatatlansága nyelvészeti szempontból (link)
(Insupportableness of the finn-ugric theory from linguistic aspects)
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While on an expedition in Ecuador János Móricz found several matches with the Hungarian (magyar) language and the language that the locals spoke. (Some scholars claim that Hungarian language is a mesolith language) In the caves the explorers found gold plates with carvings resembling to Hungarian runic scripts.
One to one similarities with Hungarian of geographical and family names in Ecuador are evidences: Quito (formerly sounds Kitus where Kit=két (two), Us=ös (ancestors) as Hunor-Magor in hungarian legends. Another example is Zuay province's ancient settlement, Pest.
Common family names are: Tanay, Damma, Taday, Mór, Momay, Mansy, Pil, Béla, Uray, Zillahi, etc.
still hungarian speaking tribes e.g. Cayapak and Salasaca (zala-szaka where szaka=scythian) use these common words: apa=apa (father), aya=anya (mother), nap=nap (sun), vin=vén (old), kit=két (two), us=ös (ancestor), cu=kö (stone), pi, bi=víz (water), fuel=folyó (river), pille=pille (butterfly), etc.
The Magyars of the Carpathian Mountains of Europe are of American origin, said Moricz: upon leaving the Andes they brought across the Atlantic idiomatic elements of the Magyar language, together with an accumulation of legends, traditions and beliefs: that, in Ecuador -- as elsewhere in the Americas -- the Cayapos, Jibaro-Shuar, Tschachis, Saragurus, Salasakas and others speak versions of the old Magyar tongue: that place-names and dialects of Ecuador, although many have been eroded by acculturalisation, or eliminated by force, are numerous.
Juan Moricz believed that history lacks global vision; that, after the Deluge, the so-called New World of the Americas became the mother of civilization and that its culture was ancient Magyar: that European and Middle-Eastern cultures had appeared suddenly, without the indispensible logic of evolutionary development: that these cultures were transported from the Americas, where their evolutionary antecedents are simple to identify: that some groups survived the Deluge, but those on the crests of the Andes were primarily responsible for the post-diluvian dispersion of knowledge and culture: that between 8000 and 7000 BC they arrived in Lower Mesopotamia in boats made from balsa wood found only in South America (In Indonesia every 4th, in the valley of Indus every 3rd geographical name is Hungarian): that, in Ecuador, place names like Shumir, Zumir, Shammar, Mosul and an infinity of others found mainly in the province of Azuay, identify this region of South America as the motherland of the ancient Sumerians, or Zumirs, whose language is a derivation of proto-Magyar.
http://www.goldlibrary.com/moricz.html
metal plate found in Tayos Gold Library. Magyar? Sanskrit? Pali?
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"The Sacae, or Scyths, were clad in trousers, and had on their heads tall stiff caps rising to a point. They bore the bow of their country and the dagger; besides which they carried the battle-axe, or sagaris (fokos in Hungarian - Villaman- ). They were in truth Amyrgian (Western) Scythians, but the Persians called them Sacae, since that is the name which they gave to all Scythians." (Herodotus VII. 64)
Although the Shakas had a reputation as fierce and war-like, one of the greatest sages of peace, the Buddha, descended from this tribe: he had the title Shakyamuni which means "Shaka monk".
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The battle axe ___________________ The Hungarian fokos
of the Scythians
that the
Greeks call sagaris.
Indeed Buddha is pronounced correctly the same way as we pronounce Buda in Hungarian. Buda is an ancient male name and even the capital of Hungary was joined together by two settlements in the two different banks of the river Danube. On the eastern bank lays Pest and on the western bank of the Danube lays Buda.
The brother of Attila the Hun was Buda. Attila was seated in the Great Hungarian Plane (the Alföld) while Buda seated in the Pilis mountains (spiritual center of Hungary) and the settlement of Buda (located at the foot of the Pilis mountain) was named after him. He was a sage as well as Siddharta centuries before. Shakyamuni Buddha before he reached the Buddha state was a Scythian prince and Siddharta Gautama Sakja Muni was his name.
Scythian princely cloth
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"Rather I go to Kukutyin pointing oat" we hungarian say when the work is very exhaustive or seems senseless. Similar expressions are the "pea roundening" or the "ice shriveling". However "Kukutyin" signs existing settlement and it is not a coincidence it is in the idiom.
The geographical name Kukutyin is shared by three different places. One in Transylvania (Cucuteni in romanian) and two on the Southern-Plane Hungary: Kukutyin-puszta of Ferencszállás and the Kukutyin homesteads near Szatymaz on the Kömpöc area.
Somewhere around the 1880's Kukutyin-puszta was sowed with oat but flooding Maros-river covered it just when the grain was to be harvested. The ingenious farmers did not want it to loose so rushed to punts and harvested by cutting all the spikes from the end of the haulm.
The event has been retained in the blazon of Ferencszállás and on the lips of the folk.
The blazon of Ferencszállás:
Ferencszállás címere.
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A szólásbeli zabhegyezés értelmetlen, haszontalan vagy végeláthatatlan tevékenységet jelöl. Hasonló kifejezésünk még például a borsót gömbölyít vagy a jégaszalás. A Kukutyin helynév azonban létező településre utal és a kifejezésbe nem véletlenül került be.
A Kukutyin földrajzi név három külön területet is takar, egyet Erdélyben és kettöt a Dél-Alföldön. Magyarországról az egyik a Szeged és Makó között elterülö Ferencszállás része, amit régi térképek Kukutyin pusztaként jelölnek a másik a Kukutyin tanyák rész a Kömpöci területen Szatymaz közelében.
Kukutyin puszta az 1880-as évek idejében zabbal volt bevetve, de az éppen akkor tetözö Maros miatt a földeken nem lehetett dolgozni. A leleményes parasztemberek nem akarták, hogy veszendöbe menjen a termés, ezért csónakokba ültek és úgy vágták le a zab hegyét, a kalászát.
Az eseményt Ferencszállás címere és a népnyelv máig is örzi.
source/forrás: Tanyavilág
related from GEC:
The Tripolje Matting
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The word 'korona' is another so called world-word see e.g. 'crown' in english but who knows the original meaning?
well, it easily can be derivated from hungarian:
Residuum of the word is 'kor' as residuum of 'korong' (disk) and it signs 'kör' (circle) here.
(This way the kör (circle) residuum is basis of many hungarian words whose sign something about round shape e.g.: kerek (round), görbe (curve), karika (ring), kormány (steering-wheel), kerék (wheel), körül around, gurul (rolls). This is an ancient word can be found in latin, greek, german, hebrew and sanskrit.
Second part of the word 'ona' is not complicated now as when we study this word we have to take care we search the connection with the sun as first kings ever worn crowns were "sun-kings" of the ancient times and the crown is symbol of the Sun, our mother-star. 'ona' is from the hun-hungarian ana or anya (mother). (In tales of middle-asia often we meet Anahit as female name.)
Ana was the main godess in hungarian ancient religion of nature, she was the mother of nature or as we call Boldogasszony (Blessedwoman).
The original form of the word korona (crown) is 'kör-anya' ("circle-mother") and it signs not just the Sun but the whole universe. (Accordance to the ancient hungarian belief-world that there the Sun is really a local subunit of the cosmic forces.)
Presentment of the Boldogasszony also proves the same:
Boldogasszony of Csíksomlyó
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All body of the mother shines showing star-world nature of the universe. The star-circle also enhances the cosmic meaning of Boldogasszony. On her left hand, by her heart she holds a children. Not strange she wears a 3-storey crown as 3 had central role in the ancient hun-hungarian world-view. The "one-trinity" or threeness in one signs the highest level, the eternal unit, so this way Boldogasszony is the highest level of the star-world, the universe herself.
Her son wears a simple crown so also a king but not the greatest. At the Sun-venerating scythians this child meant the Sun.
In the presentment of Boldogaszony the Sun appears as the son of the universe as we have found the same meaning in the word korona (crown).
If the solving is right, the origin of this world-word is hungarian, and if it is hungarian then the latin, greek, slav, german hebrew and sanskrit 'korona' word derives from hungarian.
source:
G.K.E./G.A.: Atilla és a Hunok (III.6., p. 91-92.)
ISBN-10: 963-8478-40-3
ISBN-13: 978-963-8478-40-5
Related by Villaman:
Holy Shrines of Great - Hungary / Csíksomlyó ( 46°18'55.07"N, 25°54'54.87"E )
wiki credits:
Holy Crown of Hungary
Doctrine of the Holy Crown
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A Magyar Szent Korona (The Hungarian Holy Crown)
The sacral notability of the Hungarian Holy Crown is avowed by no lesser authority but the Vatican. The Hungarian Holy Crown is the only sacral crown which is allowed to be illustrated together with the Holy Mother.
I’ve recently found two pictures at THIS link. The first picture painted by the English Pre-Raphaelite Brotherhood member Edward Burne-Jones. The painting: The Last Sleep of Arthur in Avalon shows the death of the fictitious king Arthur. Arthur was the ideal leader and some people claim that the story of Arthur, Sir Lancelot and the Knights of the Round Table is not a tale from the past but from the future. Anyway on the picture the famous English painter painted the Hungarian Holy Crown. I guess he knew something very well. The same thing as the German painter Wilhelm von Kaulbach knew. He also painted the Hungarian Holy Crown on a painting which shows the crowning ceremony of Karolus Magnus (Charlesmagne).
The Last Sleep of Arthur in Avalon
Not just the word Crown-Korona has Hungarian related origin but the first king as well. It is very likely that the crowning ceremony come from the Scythian tradition, from Central Asia. Maybe the aforementioned painters knew this very well.
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I'm sorry, but these artists must have been simply inspired by the beauty of the Crown, I wouldn't presume two mid XIX-century painters just "knew something". I'd love to see the Crown on paintings contemporary of those events, though 
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hi sanya!
whether it is just a bit overhetated theory at the end, i thought to share at this point:
The king grave of Sunghir
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