erreka
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Thank you, heamit. 
Groovy:
The Surui territory has become an islet of vegetation in the middle of the jungle, since the Surui have managed to avoid deforestation caused by logging companies, miners, gold prospectors and, lately, soybean growers.
 
The struggle of this Indian tribe, which even has costed human lives, has now received support from Google, which has yielded ten computers with satellite connection and technical assistance, to monitor by means of Google-Earth program their reservation.
The tribe has already proved its technological prowess, creating sophisticated maps of the reservation after receiving handheld GPS devices and laptop computers from the Amazon Conservation Team.
The land is still in constant danger. Chief Almir Naramayoga Surui said that 300 sawmills, which employ 4000 people, surrounding his people and other indigenous reserves in the area. So far 11 local chiefs have died trying to protect their territory, and the reward for Almir´s head is R$50000.
Almir tested Google Earth and as almost everyone looked their territory. He realized logging, and knew he could have one eye in the sky to report the coordinates of any logging or mining.
Paiter Surui
Surui in GE
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alexey_zborovskiy
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That area needs to be protected some how (and yes I know, we need to think of the economic condition of the residents too.)
Well, that's the point! The economic condition of locals tends naturally be always equal to that of ourselves. Therefore, the only way to protect forests is to live more simple life... We want have good flat, lots of money (for travelling in many places etc.), want upgrade our computer, buy a newer handphone etc. Mother Nature pays for all this... While we ourselves talk about need to protect Nature, we're keep destroying the last! (As for myself, recently I made a simple house from wasted bamboo (someone broke a lot), and now I live in it. We conduct tree planting and other such programs in Indonesia). Alex (+62-81916325839)
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This world is a trick of our own Consciousness. The goal of life is to realize both this trick and the purpose of a last.
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alexey_zborovskiy
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My guess is that unless someone maintains it, In 20 years you wont be able to pick out this spot from google earth. That forest is the fastest growing forest in the world.
I thought the rain forest should have been totally destroyed by know if you remember the rate that they said it was going back in the 80's. now 20 years later its still vast and mostly untouched!
Just shows you what a bunch of liars the greens are!
I fully agree with all what you said, except the speed of growth for the most beautiful, largest, canopy-making trees is definitely less than man's lifespan. And also: "vast and mostly untouched". Did you go in field? I know (from my own experience) that most of "untouched rainforests" that we see using Google Earth, aren't forests anymore! I told this in "Giant deforestation"- thread already. Here I just "copy and paste" what was said there:
...By the way, you know - so many places on Earth look like forests, but aren't forests at all. One instance, as I said above: high speed of destruction... Some areas were cleared off trees just few months ago, so these deserted places aren't shown - simply because the Google team cannot update all images as fast as greedy folks destroy the Earth.
There is also another "trick" about forest images... I thought I see good tropical forests in some places until I actually went there (in field) myself and discovered that these are in fact huge plantations of commercial trees and brushwoods instead of forests. Expensive experience! Some of my "adventurous trips" thus became a mere waste of time... (Well, at least I warn you now).
For example, rubber tree plantations in Indonesia. They can look very similar to a rainforest (from space). Coffee, cacao, and other plantations in tropics are often made under several remaining tree canopy. As result, from space it is impossible to understand what is seen below... You plan a trip, thinking you gonna meet orangutans, gibbons, hornbills, orchids, rafflesia, forest peoples, and all other inhabitants of a typical Paradise etc., but - instead - meet kilometers of boring plantations, where of course almost nobody can live, except for "modern people", who's basic activities are working/eating/TV-watching.
- Alex
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KimHollingshead
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Reged: 08/13/05
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Loc: Kent, UK
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Hi,
It is true that we Europeans have already cleared much of our natural forest for agriculture. This difference is that the temperate ecosystem stores the bulk of the nutrients in the soil and so fertility can be maintained after clearance. In fact, the new stone age people who started clearing would not have continued doing so had they found that they were destroying their food source! The tropical rainforest ecosystem, on the other hand, stores most of its nutrients in the vegetation and so clearing/burning it makes no sense at all! The resulting 'soil' is virtually valueless and even the planting of grasses for grazing is often only a temporary step towards eventual desertification.
The response of greedy cattle barons that 'you did it first, so you can't complain' does not, therefore, hold much water and we can stop beating our breasts over that one. We have plenty of other environmental sins to atone for!
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alexey_zborovskiy
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Reged: 06/13/08
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Yep. Some misscall on my phone. Perhaps, one of you, guyes.. As for bamboo house for life, it is not a joke:
www.healingnature.narod.ru/news/hat.html
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yhzb888
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Reged: 08/28/08
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If you're not depressed by this vast deforestation, you're a lot tougher than I am. I wonder what we'll see here in 2 years and how much more area the yellow runoff will cover at the mouth of the Amazon.
Edit: In response to Budd1's comment that there must be sadder places on Earth, I've edited my title from "Saddest" to "Sad..."
I strive for accuracy! 
Are learning, I would like to thank
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dom1710
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Reged: 08/29/08
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I guess its each one of our responsibilities to be aware of the seriousness of the situation that is happening due to de-forestation and the adverse effects it is havng on our planet, it can only start by each of us making that extra effort . Start today coz you and i can make the difference . Remember it takes many bricks to build a house. So guys save your environment , save your planet.
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lsantos
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Reged: 09/09/08
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First of all let me introduce myself, I'm an environmentalist that is following the subjects in this forum, and this is the first time I participate.
I would like to say to all that is very noble the intentions and statements of most of you, however I personally think that you are all forgetting one of the most important aspects of deforestation, and that is biodiversity loss, all the rest is just a result of modernisation and development of societies, which Brazil as all other countries is entitled to. I don’t see anyone talk about Europe’s deforestation, there are no forests just residual evidence.
I know that this post may seem offensive to some of the more strong idealistic environmentalist, however I've stopped being naive long time ago, nonetheless there is something we all can do to improve the worlds environment, and that leaves us (industrialized societies) in worst condition than countries like Brazil, that is the water quality.
We have a duty to improve the quality of our polluted rivers, do not forget that earth is 71% water which also produces oxygen, do not destroy the last forest we have.
The oceans
Environmental Greetings
Luis
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JavaGAR
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Reged: 10/07/06
Posts: 497
Loc: New York State
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Luis:
Greetings, and welcome to the Google Earth Community Forums.
Many of us are, in fact, concerned about loss of biodiversity as well as deforestation. In addition, there are numerous people who are opposed to continued degradation of the environment in the industrialized countries where they live, which is consistent with their concern about similar phenomena in countries such as Brazil that are fortunate enough to still have large areas of forested land that they could preserve. As citizens of the world, in addition to our being citizens of our own countries, we each have our own individual voices that we can, in good conscience, raise in support of responsible stewardship both locally and globally. Protection of the oceans certainly should be given high priority, but that is not a substitute for conservation of terrestrial environments. To preserve biodiversity, we need to protect both the land and the water.
But, is important to note that the Google Earth Community includes over a million people representing a wide diversity of opinions regarding what problems merit attention, what the causes are, and who should be bear the responsibility for mitigating them.
Good luck in your efforts to promote the protection of the rivers and the oceans.
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JavaGAR
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Loc: New York State
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The article CNN: Amazon forest destruction speeding up, officials say reports that:
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The Amazon is being deforested more than three times as fast as last year, Brazilian officials said Monday, acknowledging a sharp reversal after three years of declines in the deforestation rate.
Nearly 300 square miles of Brazilian rainforest was destroyed in August, officials say.
Various groups have differing opinions on why this occurring.
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Brazil's Environment Minister Carlos Minc said upcoming nationwide elections are partly to blame, with mayors in the Amazon region turning a blind eye to illegal logging in hopes of gaining votes locally.
Non-government environmentalists blame the global spike in food prices for encouraging soy farmers and cattle ranchers to clear land for crops and grazing.
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Amazon destruction jumped 228 percent in August when compared to the same month a year ago, according to a report from Brazil's National Institute for Space Research.
Source of photograph, its caption, and quotes: CNN: Amazon forest destruction speeding up, officials say
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