H21
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89 placemarks show almost all the places quoted in Shakespeare's plays.
For each place, the name of the play is noted with the number of the scene of the first appearence of the place.
Some places are in many plays, all are mentioned.
2 places are still missing, does anyone know where they are ?
The Earl of Gloucester's castle., King Lear : 1, 2
Yorkshire, Gaultree forest, Henry IV, part 2: 4, 1
Special thanks to pm77, kenromford, mikebolland , Keith_F, LuciaM and grimsacre.
(edited by Seer: this is such a wonderful post that I could not help but add a custom icon for the placemarks.  )
Edited by H21 (02/07/06 08:16 AM)
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Bigfridge
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Kudos on this one its an inspired piece of work!!
Shakespeare probably made some of the places up so you obviously wouldnt find them
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This is a truly inspired effort. Thank you for your work researching these places. We are inspired by the insight that this context will bring to many through the years to come.
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H21
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I have found 5 more places (see first post updated):
Gadshill, Henry IV, part 1 : 2, 2
the Abbey at Bury St. Edmund's, Henry VI, part 2: 3, 1
The Duke of Albany's palace., King Lear : 1, 3
Rochester, Henry IV, part 1 : 2, 1
Corioli, Coriolanus : 1, 2
8 places are still missing, does anyone know where they are ?
Bangor, Henry IV, part 1: 3, 1
Belmont, The Merchant of Venice : 1, 2
Langley, Richard II : 3, 4
Pomfret castle, Richard II : 5, 5 and Richard III: 3, 3
The Duke of Albany's palace., King Lear : 1, 3
The Earl of Gloucester's castle., King Lear : 1, 2
Yorkshire, Gaultree forest, Henry IV, part 2: 4, 1
Sandal Castle, Henry VI, part 3 : 1, 2
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simongb
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Incredible, very good work.
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Bigfridge
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there is a bangor in northern ireland if thats the one u mean. Ive left a placemark
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H21
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Thank you for your post, but Bangor is most probably in North Wales :
Location: Bangor, Gwynedd United Kingdom
Lat: 53:13:34N (53.226) Lon: 4:07:59W (-4.1331)
I will update the placemarks soon.
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Edited by H21 (10/25/05 12:29 AM)
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Lady_Luck
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Wow. I downloaded this four days ago; it's taken me that long to fully explore all these places! Amazing work, H21.
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H21
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I have found 2 more places :
Bangor and Pomfret Castle.
The new placemarks are here.
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Edited by H21 (01/03/06 08:52 AM)
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jsbjsbjsb
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I am very eager to read this post, which sounds fascinating, but cannot open the download. Any help from anyone? Thank you v. much.
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H21
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Have you tried to download from Update 2? It seems to work.
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qwerty5oo
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Surely Macbeths castle was Cawdor castle, which is`nt in Inverness, close, but no cigar.
http://www.cawdorcastle.com/index.cfm
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pm77
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Hi,
Belmont is a fantasy place. In Italian Belmont(e) means "nice mountain", and a place so named doesn't exist, at least in Veneto region.
Where could it be, if real? The hills nearest to Venice are Colli Euganei, see placemark and images here:
Colli Euganei
bye
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Frank4
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Yes, I agree this is an excellent post. I have written a story about this at the Google Earth Blog. You can read the story here.
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H21
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I think you are right, Belmont must be a fantasy place like the "Forest of Arden" in "As you like it".
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H21
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A lot of castles are known to Macbeth's castle, like Cawdor or Glamis !
for discussion on this topic, see :
http://www.highlanderweb.co.uk/macbeth.htm
In fact, nobody knows exactly where it is. I have chosen the location of the text of the play (Act 1, Scene 5) : Inverness. Macbeth's castle.
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Edited by H21 (11/08/05 10:37 PM)
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kenromford
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The Forest of Arden is not a fantasy place; it is an area near Coventry. This placemark is of the Marriott Forest of Arden Hotel and Country Club in Meriden, Warwickshire. See this website. Nearby are the villages of Hampton-in-Arden (2.3 miles SW) and Henley-in-Arden (12 miles SSW). Both have railway stations which are placemarked already so I haven't marked these again. The history of the Forest of Arden in Shakespeare's time is discussed at Chapter 2 here. The information here is nonsense. Would Shakespeare be writing about a forest he knew well just down the road from Stratford-upon-Avon, called Arden, or one in continental Europe which he'd probably never heard of - and it's called Ardennes anyway.
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kenromford
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 Sorry to be picky on such a good post, but your PM for Baynard's Castle should be about 0.25 miles ESE of where it is now, i.e. just east of Blackfriars station, in between there and the slip road from Upper Thames Street to Queen Victoria Street. Turn on roads and you will see Castle Baynard Street is still there. This is confirmed here .
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H21
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Ok for your location of "Forest of Arden". I add it and update the folder.
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Edited by H21 (11/13/05 09:00 AM)
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grimsacre
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Langley, Richard II : 3, 4
This is likely to be at Kings Langley in Hertfordshire. Edmund de Langley, the Duke of York, was born in and owned a palace here that has since burned down.
I'm not sure how to mark the place but I can pinpoint it for you. A school is on the site of the palace and the postcode is WD4 9HG.
Richard II was buried here (before being moved to Westminster)
I assume that this is also the site of:
The Duke of York 's Palace, Richard II : 5, 2 and may be "a royal palace" mentioned in other scenes.
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H21
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Ok for Kings Langley. I add it and update the folder.
Thank you for your post.
Only 4 places are missing !
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Edited by H21 (11/15/05 10:43 AM)
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grimsacre
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Sandal Castle, Henry VI, part 3 : 1, 2
The castle's remains (although not much is remaining) are still there at Sandal, Wakefield:
Latitude: 53:39:31N Longitude: 1:29:25W
The field of battle in scenes 3 and 4 refers to the Battle of Wakefield, which took place on Wakefield Green to the west of Sandal Castle.
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H21
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Thank you once more for this post.
Only 3 places are still missing now !
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H21
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Martin wrote :
First congratulations on your work
My humble effort is to help the accuracy a little
As I live very near to this site I can inform you of the exact site of
"The battle of Mortimers Cross" which was the last battle of the English Civil War is a few kilometers South of your placemark
Historians or visitors will find a site at this location
52deg 16'05.44N
2deg 50'35.74W
which is formally recognised by historians and maintained by "English Heritage"
http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/
If you turn on "roads" you will see a crossroads near this point which is know locally as "Mortimers Cross"
Perhaps you would like to edit your contribution rather than leaving me to place another conflicting site nearby
Other information
The castle which was the seat of the powerful Mortimer family was Wigmore Castle, parts of its ruins are preserved to this day at
52deg 19'02.93N
2deg 52' 16.37W
You may also like to know that Shakespear's Work is celebrated locally each year with an open air performance in nearby Ludlow Castle
(A perfect setting for the scottish play etc)
Next year 2006 it is Midsummer Nights Dream
http://www.ludlowfestival.co.uk/
Once again - Well Done!
Regards
Martin
the folder is updated with new location of Mortimer croos
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barrett50
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This is amazing!
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mikebolland
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Hi all,
I live in Pontefract so here are the co-ordinates for the Castle Ruins which were made worse during the Victorian times when the Castle was converted into a Public Park.
53°41'44.09"N
1°18'12.34"W
Cheers!
Mike
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H21
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Thank you for your post,
Pomfret castle is now well seen with new high res area.
Update2 is updated !
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shang1xiao
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Excellent! but I don't kown most of them.
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Keith_F
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Duke of Albany's Palace is probably Falkland Castle. See http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/falkland/falkland/
It is very near to Macduff's Castle too, which is probably not a coincidence.
Edited by Keith_F (12/30/05 05:36 AM)
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H21
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Ok for Falkland Castle, it has been added in update2 folder.
Thanks for your post !
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bkeo
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Hi
A quick tweak to the location of Kenilworth Castle (Henry VI, Part 2: 4, 9). It is not where placed. Its correct location is Lat. 52°20'52.12"N, Long. 1°35'33.87"W.
Cheers
Ben
Thanks for the tweak... your update will appear in the latest update of this collection!
Edited by Kempster (06/11/08 11:46 AM)
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Gefrin
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Henry IV Part1: Act 1: Scene 1
Mention is made of the battle of Homildon Hill. The battle took place on the slopes of what is now known as Humbleton Hill in north Northumberland.
More details at www.gefrin.com
Thanks for the addition... your update will appear in the latest update of this collection!
Edited by Kempster (06/11/08 11:49 AM)
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Keith_F
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Gloucester's castle in King Lear is difficult. Shakespeare's allegory used made up characters, but some were 'recycled' from other plays. It is likely that the character of Gloucester bears some resemblance to Humprey of Gloucester, Henry Vs youngest brother. Unfortunately for this subject he had at least four castles, but it is tempting to think that the castle referred to was in fact Baynard's Castle.
Some relevant info gleaned from various sources are as follows:
King Henry V (in whose time Greenwich was still a small fishing town) granted the Manor, for life, to his kinsman, Thomas Beaufort, Duke of Exeter. Soon after his decease in 1417, it passed to Humphrey, Duke of Gloucester, who, in 1433, obtained a grant of 200 acres of land in Greenwich for the purpose of enclosing it as a Park. In 1437, he obtained a similar grant and in it license was given to the Duke and Eleanor, his wife, "their Manor of Greenwich to embattle and build with stone, and to enclose and make a tower and ditch within the same, and a certain tower within his park to build and edify." Accordingly, soon after this, he commenced building the tower within the park, now the site of the Royal Observatory, which was then called Greenwich Castle. Likewise, he newly erected the palace on the spot where the west wing of the Royal Hospital now stands. Which palace he named Bella Court.
Duke Humphrey was Regent of England during the minority of King Henry VI and, for his many virtues, was styled the "Father of his Country." He lent Greenwich to the King for his honeymoon, despite his strong opposition to the marriage. This excited the envy of Queen Margaret and induced her to enter into a confederacy with the Cardinal of Winchester and the Earl of Suffolk. Strengthened by her assistance and incited by their common hatred of the patriotic Duke, they basely assassinated him at Bury St. Edmunds in Suffolk on February 28th, 1447. He was a generous patron of men, of science and the most learned person of his age. He founded, at Oxford, one of the first public libraries in England. Leland, in his Laboryeuse Journey, says, "Humphrey, the good Duke of Gloucester, from the favour he bears to good letters, purchase |
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