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i have proof [Re: Chief_Sparky]
      #210738 - 11/25/05 11:25 AM

it was built in 1945 for a testing ground they were going to blow up the entire place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Swastika on US military property in San Diego [Re: James_A]
      #1012728 - 09/27/07 09:26 AM

The most recent update on this post comes from an article in the Los Angeles Times.

By Tony Perry, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
September 26, 2007

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CORONADO, Calif., -- The U.S. Navy has decided to spend as much as $600,000 for landscaping and architectural modifications to obscure the fact that one its building complexes looks like a swastika from the air.

The four L-shaped buildings, constructed in the late 1960s, are part of the amphibious base at Coronado and serve as barracks for Seabees.

From the ground and from inside nearby buildings, the controversial shape cannot be seen. Nor are there any civilian or military landing patterns that provide such a view to airline passengers.

But once people began looking at satellite images from Google Earth, they started commenting about on blogs and websites about how much the buildings resembled the symbol used by the Nazis.

When contacted by a Missouri-based radio talk-show host last year, Navy officials gave no indication they would make changes.

But early this year, the issue was quietly taken up by Morris Casuto, the Anti-Defamation League's regional director in San Diego, and U.S. Rep. Susan Davis (D-San Diego).

As a result, in the fiscal year that begins Oct. 1, the Navy has budgeted up to $600,000 for changes in walkways, "camouflage" landscaping and rooftop photovoltaic cells.

The goal is to mask the shape. "We don't want to be associated with something as symbolic and hateful as a swastika," said Scott Sutherland, deputy public affairs officer for Navy Region Southwest, the command that is responsible for maintaining buildings on local bases.

Navy officials say the shape of the buildings, designed by local architect John Mock, was not noted until after the groundbreaking in 1967 -- and since it was not visible from the ground, a decision was made not to make any changes.

It is unclear who first noticed the shape on Google Earth. But one of the first and loudest advocates demanding a change was Dave vonKleist, host of a Missouri-based radio-talk show, The Power Hour, and a website, www.thepowerhour.com.

In spring 2006, he began writing military officials, including then-Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, calling for action.

That August, he received a response from officials in Coronado, who made no promise to take action and said, "The Navy intends to continue the use of the buildings as long as they remain adequate for the needs of the service."

In December, the now-defunct San Diego Jewish Times wrote about the buildings and the controversy.

Soon Casuto and Davis got involved.

Casuto began an on-and-off dialogue with the chief of staff to Rear Adm. Len Hering, commander of Region Southwest. He said that several members of the Jewish community had complained to him.

"I don't ascribe any intentionally evil motives to this," Casuto said, referring to the design. "It just happened. The Navy has been very good about recognizing the problem. The issue is over."

Davis, who is Jewish, is also pleased with the Navy's decision.

During a discussion with military officials on other issues, Davis had mentioned the Coronado buildings and suggested that rooftop photovoltaic arrays might help change the overhead look. The base gets 3% of its power from solar energy and has been looking to increase that percentage.

Reached in Versailles, Mo., vonKleist, the talk-show host, said he was ecstatic.

"I'm concerned about symbolism," he said. "This is not the type of message America needs to be sending to the world."






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It is unclear who first noticed the shape on Google Earth.




But certainly the first to post about it was James_A

Please read the rest of this thread for more about the history of this ancient pattern.

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Navy to remodel swastika building for $600K [Re: James_A]
      #1012758 - 09/27/07 10:00 AM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,298165,00.html

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Re: Swastika on US military property in San Diego [Re: James_A]
      #1012762 - 09/27/07 10:06 AM

The following was in the San Diego Union Tribune 9/24/2007'....

They plumb missed the bird's-eye view.
That's what the Navy says. Amazing as it sounds, a Stonehenge-size facsimile of the most hateful symbol of the 20th century was overlooked until it was too late to reconfigure.

Let's back up a bit.

Almost 40 years ago, during the height of the Vietnam War, construction began on a six-building complex at the Coronado Naval Amphibious Base, south of Glorietta Bay.
Designed by prominent San Diego architect John Mock, the original blueprint consisted of two central buildings “and a single L-shaped 3-story barracks,” according to the Navy's official account.
The plan called for the L-shaped building to be repeated three times at 90-degree angles from the central buildings.
After the groundbreaking, Navy officials experienced a classic “Oh, no!” moment.
Viewed from above, the buildings known as NAB Complex 320-325 formed the outline of a massive swastika, an ancient symbol forever stigmatized by Hitler's Third Reich.
These days, painting a swastika on public buildings constitutes a hate crime. What do you say about buildings that form a swastika?
Well, time passed. The aerial homage to Nazi Germany quietly settled into the landscape.
Beginning last year, however, thanks to the satellite imagery service Google Earth, NAB Complex 320-325 burst into an Internet supernova.
What for decades was at best a jumpy glimpse from an aircraft became a crystal-clear horror show frozen in time and space. Indelibly stamped into the heart of the military base, the swastika hits you like an iron fist.

Type in “Coronado” and “swastika” on Google and you'll find some 60,000 hits, most of them referring to the now-notorious complex, which most San Diego County residents are unaware of.
Surfing the sites, you run into bizarre theories posing as facts.
German POWs built the complex during World War II as a tribute to Hitler. Nearby buildings, shaped like planes, are flying toward the swastika.

The truth, as the Navy says, appears to be less exciting.
Architect Mock, whom I could not reach through family members, told a KFMB-TV reporter last year that he knew what the overhead perspective looked like at the time, but he still didn't believe that the unconnected buildings constituted a true swastika.

Technically, maybe not.
Viscerally, for sure.

After learning of the controversy last winter, Rep. Susan Davis, D-San Diego, who is Jewish, said she had discussed the buildings with the Navy and “was supportive of their efforts to find a feasible solution.”
Despite the sensational subject, the swastika story received relatively light press coverage here – a TV report and a comprehensive December article in the San Diego Jewish Times.
After that sunburst, the swastika buildings dropped off the media radar.
Behind the scenes, however, the Anti-Defamation League, the Jewish organization dedicated to eradicating hateful speech and symbols, was quietly tracking the Navy's efforts to develop a “feasible solution.”
Every couple of months Morris Casuto, local director of the ADL, called up the office of Rear Adm. Len Herring, commander of the Naval Region Southwest, to inquire how things were going.
“I'm not prepared to prescribe evil motives,” Casuto told me. “Everyone makes mistakes. But when you screw up, say you're sorry – and fix it.”
Acutely aware that the Navy had higher priorities during wartime, Casuto wasn't asking for major money or time.

Maybe something along the lines of a tarp stretched between buildings.
Something, anything, to alter the symbol that evokes anguish among many Jews, World War II veterans and others.

On Wednesday, Casuto received good news. “I now have the sense the Navy is committed to changing this because they know it's right,” he told me, the admiration ringing in his voice. After studying and rejecting various forms of camouflage, the Navy has budgeted $600,000 for fiscal 2008 to finally solve what it considers a “legitimate concern,” said Scott Sutherland, deputy public affairs officer for the Navy Region Southwest.
“We take this very seriously,” Sutherland stressed. “We want to be a good neighbor.”
Two corrective measures likely will be blended, said Sutherland, who had just been briefed by Navy engineers. The first adds pavement, rock formations and landscaping to blur the offensive profile.

The second envisions large photovoltaic panels on the roofs of NAB Complex 320-325. If that's done, solar power will be generated from atop the transformed Coronado swastika.
What some might view as a sour lemon, a poor use of Navy money in a time of war, could wind up generating a steady stream of sweet juice.


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Re: Swastika on US military property in San Diego [Re: sandiegoviewer]
      #1016930 - 10/02/07 12:09 PM

Hello,

I'm researching a story about this, for a comedy-news TV show. Do you know of, or do you know where I might find, further examples of offensive or ridiculous images that have been revealed thanks to Google Earth?

Thanks!


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Re: Swastika on US military property in San Diego [Re: James_A]
      #1024762 - 10/10/07 04:59 PM

http://www.freepressinternational.com/?p=274

THIS SWASTIKA WAS PURPOSELY DONE. IF YOU PUT THE BUILDING TO TRUE “NORTH” IT ALIGNS VIRTUALLY PERFECT WITH THE GERMAN FLAG. FOX NEWS FORGOT ABOUT THIS LITTLE DETAIL.


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Re: Swastika on US military property in San Diego [Re: fpinews]
      #1035374 - 10/23/07 07:24 AM

Quote:

http://www.freepressinternational.com/?p=274

THIS SWASTIKA WAS PURPOSELY DONE. IF YOU PUT THE BUILDING TO TRUE “NORTH” IT ALIGNS VIRTUALLY PERFECT WITH THE GERMAN FLAG. FOX NEWS FORGOT ABOUT THIS LITTLE DETAIL.




I suppose it's all a conspiracy by the Bush Administration that started nearly 50 years ago...


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Re: Swastika on US military property in San Diego [Re: James_A]
      #1042352 - 10/31/07 06:12 PM

Does anyone know of a site that shows different dated satellite images? I was at the Gillespie Field Aerospace Museum today and inside was a sweet satellite image of all of Sand Diego. It shows this site prior to the Naval Barracks that resemble a Swastika. I wasn't able to get the best look at it however because it was high up on a wall. If anyone knows of such a site be sure to reply
http://www.aerospacemuseum.org/gillespie/


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Re: Swastika on US military property in San Diego [Re: James_A]
      #1079370 - 12/23/07 03:16 PM

I lived in this building for over a year. it was built in the 50's shortly after ww2 and the nazis. The thing most people fail to notice is the other buildings next to it shaped like bombers aimed at the swastika.

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Re: Swastika on US military property in San Diego [Re: James_A]
      #1080008 - 12/24/07 03:42 PM

religious symbol! Like anything it can be perverted!

wikipedia.com

Archaeological evidence of swastika-shaped ornaments dates from the Neolithic period. An ancient symbol, it occurs in numerous indigenous Asian, European, African and Native American cultures; sometimes as a geometrical motif and sometimes as a religious symbol. It has long been widely used in major world religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism.

The swastika was appropriated as a Nazi symbol and gained further association with the Third Reich as the Reich gained influence. Though once commonly used all over much of the world without stigma, over time the symbol has become a controversial motif, especially in the Western world


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