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Re: What happened to Navy? [Re: esterrett]
      #6122 - 10/27/03 05:50 PM

There were hundreds of human survivors. Maybe one was named Smallwood, but who knows? No Navy ships with that name. This is an actual photo of the eta the next morning:

Pretty impressive! Any ideas?




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Edited by Jumble (10/27/03 08:56 PM)


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aladdin
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Re: What happened to Navy? [Re: Jumble]
      #6195 - 11/01/03 09:34 PM

By coincidence, I came across this a few weeks ago when unsuccessfully trying to "Earthview" a mural in Lompoc, which I read about in the Auto Club's Westways Magazine, November/December 2003. Mural Link.

Here's just some of the destruction, as seen from shore, with flagship U.S.S. Delphy in the foreground.



It all happened in about 7 minutes on a dark foggy night. 14 destroyers were traveling south in a single column at 20 knots. The separation between each ship, stern to bow, was about 147 yards - 13 seconds at that speed. A navigation error by the Delphy crashed it into the rocks of the "Devil's Jaw", with most of the other ships following right behind.

Besides the 23 lives and 7 destroyers, it was a $13.5 million loss (in 1923 dollars.) The remains were sold to a salvager for $1,035 two years later. More information here.

Some of these facts are from Great Naval Disasters and Warship Boneyards by Kit Bonner. (Try Amazon.Com "Search Inside" - Wow!)

Thanks for the interesting exercise, Jumble! (Now, maybe Esterrett can explain who Smallwood is. )




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Edited by aladdin (11/01/03 09:40 PM)


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Re: Smallwood [Re: aladdin]
      #6199 - 11/02/03 08:02 AM

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Here's your Smallwood clues:

1. Big Boat
2. 100 Proof
3. Big Rocks
4. Time for a nap.
5. Oops!



Detailed Info ::HERE ::

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Re: Smallwood [Re: esterrett]
      #6200 - 11/02/03 10:31 AM

Here's Aladdin's Mural:

Terrifically epic depiction of Honda Point disaster! I did not know of it! Carpetman, great work as usual. Ester, now I get it. Great analogy re: ship command. I regret my dense reply. But wouldn't Hazelwood have been better? ::More info::

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Re: Smallwood [Re: Jumble]
      #6204 - 11/02/03 11:19 AM

I'm shocked that I didn't pick that up.. I haven't a clue how that happened.

Musta been one of those foggy night encounters..

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"Nobody is interested in solutions if they don't think there's a problem. Given that starting point, I believe it is appropriate to have an over-representation of factual presentations on how dangerous (global warming) is, as a predicate for opening up the audience to listen to what the solutions are..." -former Vice President Al Gore, Grist Magazine, May 9, 2006

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Re: Smallwood [Re: Jumble]
      #6205 - 11/02/03 11:23 AM

As many as 26 big ships have been wrecked at Point Honda, in the area known as the Devil's Jaws.

Captain Edward H. Watson , from everything I've read, has earned a bit more sympathy for the tragic accident on September 8, 1923.

Quote:


Captain Watson energetically organized rescue and survival measures for the several hundred shipwrecked Sailors and subsequently took full responsibility for the actions that led to the tragedy.

Though the ensuing court martial resulted in the loss of all chance for further promotion, Captain Watson's willing acceptance of command responsibility and his display of great personal character in a situation of considerable adversity were widely admired in and out of the Naval Service.





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Re: US carriers- got one more for ya [Re: esterrett]
      #8190 - 03/03/04 11:55 AM

check out the one hidden in the line up at the mothball fleet across from the martinez bride,calif up and to the right.

i used to live there for years, and i know its still there.


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Re: US carriers- got one more for ya [Re: Anonymous]
      #8205 - 03/04/04 02:01 PM

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Good find, Anonoguy. You're referring to the helicopter ship USS New Orleans at Soisan Bay. Near Ester's own ship.

Looks like this fine ship will soon become a home for the fishes! (For informative previous post on the area click here! )

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Re: What land-locked ship is this? [Re: Jumble]
      #8407 - 03/16/04 12:07 PM

I just found your reference to the "destroyer" left in the desert, and had to chuckle. It does look like a ship. In reality itis a flood control area at the base of the mountains. I live just a few miles from there. I assume you were just goofin as to what it was. Hope this clears up another "Philadelphia experiment" conspiricy

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Re: What land-locked ship is this? [Re: Anonymous]
      #8408 - 03/16/04 12:21 PM

Thanks for the ground truth! As you surmise, those posters were just having a laugh. It is interesting, though, how different things often appear from above. Some Keyhole users just "fly around" and look for odd-looking things to share. This "ship" was one of those.

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