FrankB
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The problem is that you have to identify which placemarks point to the same thing. Pick a random place with a huge white globe on the ground. One person will post "What is this?", another will post "Is this a UFO?", a third one will post "The worlds largest 3D-cinema". The placemarks will not necessarily be placed in exactly the same spot. How should this be handled? What should be the caption of the combined placemarks? I don't think it's an easy task to automate this.
Edited by FrankB (09/17/05 04:07 PM)
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simsam
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indeed.
This wont remove all the crap. But i think the most polluted places are monuments, train stations etc. In this case the names will look awefully alike (could vary depending on the language it is written in though..).
Although its not perfect, it would clean most of the crap. And uncloud most cultural or really interesting places.
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timfitz
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Reged: 07/31/05
Posts: 57
Loc: Toronto, Ontario (Canada)
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Grimmie wrote:
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Some one need to set up a poll and we could vote.
1. Trash the old BBS data file.
2. Leave it alone.
3. Report duplicates and have someone remove them.
4. Right a program. to get rid of the bad data.
5. Just do something else to fix it.
Here's my $.02
re: #1 -- we all have the capacity to do that, and these days I turn the BBS layer on selectively, as I do the other layers (boundaries, roads, etc) when I'm interested in what other people have seen in an area, or if I'm considering making a post, of course. Trashing the whole layer will certainly take care of all the multiple postings, planes that have flown away, fires that have been put out, etc, but will also lose many wonderful placemarks.
re: #2 --- ..........well.......
re: #3 -- Have someone remove them. I think we need to hear from some of the moderators on this one. I have heard some concern over the matter of subjectivity, yet people feel, and I think I agree, that there needs to be a human involvement in this, rather than doing it technologically, as in having a program do it (point #5)
What I would like to know, from the moderators, is whether they would feel that this is an overwhelming task, to sift through all these placemarks, and whether they see other issues here. Suppose the corner of Front and Main gets too crowded with placemarks. Do we delete Jimmy's Fish and Chip Shoppe, and leave the MegaMaul across the street?
I'm not sure about a straight voting system. I'd hate for us to be keeping all the Jessica Simpson placemarks and lose the Major Holley (no offense to any pop idols) just because one is much better known, at the moment, than the other.
re: #4 -- because I am a slow writer the thoughts have been popping up about this one -- if people feel that a program would work, that would be great, but I have my doubts about this one, too. As well as the examples mentioned there are some creative spelings in the placemarks, so that the program may not recognize them as the same place.
At least everyone in this thread is reading the "Whoa! Read this first!" line at the top of each post!
thanks to everyone for making GE and BBS a thoughtful and entertaining place to be.
cheers,
Tim
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FrankB
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I think it should be optional to include placemarks in the BBS layer. I don't get why every placemark we put in the forum has to show in the BBS layer. Placemarks of the kind "what is this?" has nothing to do there. It has no useful information when browsing in GE. I would like to see only placemarks that identify things, and not placemarks asking what things are. It is, of course, all right to ask for identification of something, but it belongs in the forum.
It really annoys me that you cannot point to a place without getting the placemark in the BBS layer. In the current thread we are talking of places crowded with placemarks. I cannot point to such a place without getting it even more crowded.
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Periboob
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Reged: 05/06/03
Posts: 1982
Loc: Missouri, US
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About the time this thread was taking off, I started a thread in Open forum for the purpose of listing suggestions Minimal discussion, just a list of ideas. Maybe someone will have a killer idea, and someone will be assigned the job of implementing it.
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mcheong
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Reged: 09/10/05
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Hi everyone I see the end of placemarks in the near future. It will collapse due to the present system. It is only a matter of time. Regrets. No rules no order = you already know.
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FrankB
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Reged: 08/03/05
Posts: 113
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Exactly.
Either accept it as it is, or drop it completely. Personally I never use the BBS layer. I find interresting placemarks thru the forum.
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EarthSurfer
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Reged: 07/21/05
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Loc: Gloucester, MA, USA
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I hope there is a good solution to this problem. I have seen alot of places where there are double placemarks in the exact same spot (for example there are three placemarks in hollywood in the same exact place that say 'Capital Records Building at Hollywood & Vine') - and of course all of the major cities are way too full. We dont need a whole bunch of placemarks in Boston that say 'Boston, Massachusttes'. A solution might be that if someone tried to post something that has just the two words Boston and Massachusettes near a placemark that is already there, they would be told that it has already been posted.
Anyways, I hope you guys find something to fix this.
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FrankB
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Posts: 113
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It is not as simple as that. Why prevent people from making a link to a specific place just because someone else has already done it? Let's say you have something interresting to tell about a place, you look in the BSS and see another placemark there. Bad luck, now you cannot tell your storry and refer people to the place. Your only choice is to go to the other persons thread and write your story there, where it might be completely out of place.
If I have something to say about a place, I would like to be able to make a new thread with a link to it, and not worry about other peoples placemarks.
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IBeamer
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Reged: 08/26/05
Posts: 115
Loc: Middleburg, FL, USA
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There seem to be a lot of ideas of how to drain the swamp, but if the holes in the levee are not plugged first the pumping will go on forever. An idea that I had was to make users qualify to post placemarks by passing a quiz based on the documentation, collected wisdom, FAQ etc. to insure the have at least done some RTFM before posting.
The first exposure to GE is so exciting that new users can't wait to get in on the fun ( been there, done that ).
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