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Frank4
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New Beta Version - and a worrisome new feature
      #85930 - 08/27/05 06:26 AM

FYI, a new version (3.0.0529) of Google Earth is out. You can read about it here and here.

This version has the new "Share with Google Earth Community" option. It allows you to share a placemark by posting it to the BBS. There doesn't appear to be any filtering or warnings to prevent duplicate entries - so the clutter problem will get even worse. Unless you're going to do some filtering of new submittals, I don't like this feature at all.

And, even worse, it uses Internet Explorer only to post instead of your default browser! Egads! You guys need to fix this!

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Re: New Beta Version - and a worrisome new feature [Re: Frank4]
      #85956 - 08/27/05 06:55 AM

And as usual the check for update feature is behind.

Also, there is a bug, if the placemark contains "other letters" it ends up screwd. I tried with "Damhus Søen", and the "ø" gets change to a weird letter when it jumps onto this BBS.

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Re: New Beta Version - and a worrisome new feature [Re: Frank4]
      #85991 - 08/27/05 07:33 AM

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There doesn't appear to be any filtering or warnings to prevent duplicate entries...
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And, even worse, it uses Internet Explorer only to post instead of your default browser! Egads! You guys need to fix this!



How do you propose the warning for duplicate entries gets triggered?

Since GE runs on Windows, it is safe to assume that most all users will have IE installed and operational (save the few hardcore users who try to make some sort of statement in disabling IE while still using a MS operating system). Anyway, opening IE guarantees that the posting process works, regardless of what exotic browser the end-user has installed.


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Re: New Beta Version - and a worrisome new feature [Re: Frank4]
      #86048 - 08/27/05 08:31 AM

Frank4,

My fault for not posting the notice earlier. In general, I want to make sure that nothing bad is discovered in the first few hours of use before I start promoting it as an upgrade on the BBS. Same goes for check-for-updates.

Regarding the BBS posting wizard (as we call it). It uses the internal browser correctly, but you have discovered a bug in its use of the external browser. It definitely should have respected the setting, but appears to use IE anyway. We will fix that in the next installer.

The goal of the wizard is to capture the specific act of posting kml/kmz to the BBS and to offer up as much feedback during the process to help improve posting quality. We are working on ways to flag potential posts as duplicates before they get posted.

BTW, very nice blog!


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Re: New Beta Version - and a worrisome new feature [Re: Frank4]
      #86125 - 08/27/05 09:37 AM

Quote:



This version has the new "Share with Google Earth Community" option. It allows you to share a placemark by posting it to the BBS. There doesn't appear to be any filtering or warnings to prevent duplicate entries - so the clutter problem will get even worse. Unless you're going to do some filtering of new submittals, I don't like this feature at all.





The idea of users being able to add placemarks is an awesome feature, but I cringe when I see this kind of thing, or placemarks that say "What's this?" or something similar.


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Re: New Beta Version - and a worrisome new feature [Re: jmc777]
      #86186 - 08/27/05 10:46 AM

Quote:

The idea of users being able to add placemarks is an awesome feature, but I cringe when I see this kind of thing, or placemarks that say "What's this?" or something similar.




What is that anyways?Give me the Placemark please.

Nevermind I found it.

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Edited by FuNkY_CaPrIcOrN (08/27/05 10:48 AM)


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Re: New Beta Version - and a worrisome new feature [Re: PenguinOpus]
      #86253 - 08/27/05 11:52 AM

Quote:


Regarding the BBS posting wizard (as we call it). It uses the internal browser correctly, but you have discovered a bug in its use of the external browser. It definitely should have respected the setting, but appears to use IE anyway. We will fix that in the next installer.





Does this mean that if I install again now it will fix the feature, or not until the next beta release (>0529)?

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Re: New Beta Version - and a worrisome new feature [Re: Frank4]
      #86258 - 08/27/05 11:54 AM

next beta after 0529.

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Re: New Beta Version - and a worrisome new feature [Re: PenguinOpus]
      #86281 - 08/27/05 12:19 PM

Quote:

Regarding the BBS posting wizard (as we call it).

The goal of the wizard is to capture the specific act of posting kml/kmz to the BBS and to offer up as much feedback during the process to help improve posting quality. We are working on ways to flag potential posts as duplicates before they get posted.






What do you think of my suggestion here to offer a Wikipedia like facility where others, could edit existing placemarks.

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Re: New Beta Version - and a worrisome new feature [Re: Frank4]
      #86587 - 08/27/05 04:39 PM

Quote:

Quote:


Regarding the BBS posting wizard (as we call it). It uses the internal browser correctly, but you have discovered a bug in its use of the external browser. It definitely should have respected the setting, but appears to use IE anyway. We will fix that in the next installer.





Does this mean that if I install again now it will fix the feature, or not until the next beta release (>0529)?




Come now Frank, how many placemarks do you need to post in the near future?

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