MONDARIZ
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38°43'40.60"N 119°11'4.60"W
A man?
No, its just a shadow. Its too large to be a man, try to use the rule in g-earth.
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MONDARIZ
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I'm having problems with MTurk. If someone could explain how or where to simply send a coordinate that would be helpful. Examining the kml image from that site I noticed what appears to be a smoke plume. It would seem to be an odd place for a campfire, although there is no noticable debris. Also note how the older GE image does not show this feature.
38 32 32.99 N
119 14 17.98 W
-edit... looking at these images more closely it looks more like some sort of manmade fire. There is a road intersecting the location and the older image seems to show a very faint bit of smoke along with a circular clearing about the smoke location.
Duncan
I think we can assume, that if the smoke had anything to do with Fossett, the SAR planes would have found him. Its a pretty big smoke signature.
But its a very good idea, to look after signs like that.
A light aircraft crumbles into nothing, if it hits the ground at any speed. Survivors would likely try to signal SAR planes, with smoke, arrange stones into letters, square or sharp edge signatures of any kind. Something that would look manmade.
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MONDARIZ
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I found something that's not on the overlay.
38º 25' 15.53" N 119º 15' 58.11" W
Wingspan aprox 25'
Possible tarp spreadout at tail of plane.
Comments?
I can't see anything there. Maybe you could post a screenie and mark what you see.
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MONDARIZ
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Dear sirs,
Please check this T PATTERN Survey by Alejandro Barnett, we look over different angles, must be check.
Finger cross.
ALEJANDRO BARNETT
PD: Guys lets work hard, 7 days can be done, i read many histories of sea man survey on hard conditions, and this is a strong guy.!!!
Its well outside the search area. Try to stay inside the Mechanical turk search area. maybe they expand the area later, but there is a reason why they have limited the area.
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MONDARIZ
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Tried suggested area by Ed Dames from the C2CAM website just for the heck of it... (It happened to overlap the available color GeoEye overlay, so why not?)
Anyhow, I spotted what appears to be a creme (off-white yellow) colored aircraft on its side with various parts adjacent and what may be debris scattered to the north north east of its resting location. Not sure if this would be the color of Steve's plane, since most pictures show a blue & white color scheme as being popular for the aircraft. Becomes visible around 2000ft "earth viewing altitude" and appears only on the overlay. Length of what I presume to be the fuselage is about 20ft using the measuring tool, and landing gear and wing strut appear to be discernable features (although its badly pixelated when zoomed in.)
Not terribly far from trails/roads and right along a river bed, so the site should be readily accessable. Other user placemarks are in the vicinity, so apparently hikers and "bigfoot researchers" have been in there before.
Edit - screen cap showing what I think I'm seeing and orientation.
The anomaly looks manmade. Sort of what you would expect a downed aircraft to end up. Wings and fuselage apart from eachother.
I think its a bit too large for the aircraft in question, but google earth is not a precision tool.
Personally i can't make out any discernable structure.
I would report it for sure, its one of the most "crash-like" images i have seen yet.
It would be nice if the search team marked places, that has been checked.
If you switch to the older GE image --you see the same white mark. It could be an older plane crash??--They have located 6 downed planes they were unaware off before this search. danescombe
BTW-----> GEC Member PRSurfer has put together a KML file with all the main 'sightings' marked .
It may be worth you downloading this -so you don't reproduce sites that have already been flagged -- DownLoad KML File HERE
Edited by danescombe (09/11/07 01:43 AM)
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MacDoc1
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I'm not sure why the satellite scans are to the west when the last radar info was to the east.
Received this update
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To all who have sent coordinates or images, thank you. Some additional information:
The aircraft was last seen on NAS Fallon radar ~5 miles east of Hawthorne Army Depot, (38 30N, 118 30W) proceeding northbound, descending slowly (controlled) through 7000’ msl at 10:05 AM local time. This location is less than 30 miles ESE from the point of departure/arrival. Estimated time of return to the ranch was 11:00 AM. The predicted aircraft performance and climb rate must be adjusted down for the density altitude of this area in summer. Because it was a tube and fabric aircraft, it is very likely that the wreckage will look like a pile of sticks and paper. Satellite images of intact aircraft are usually in flight and not wreckage.
Steve was on a local pleasure flight and not surveying run sites for the LSR. The extreme terrain and high density altitude require turbine helicopters for close in search. Fixed wing and piston aircraft have proven to be unable to follow the terrain in the present conditions.
The majority of the search effort is concentrated in this area with Army and Air National Guard aircraft supplemented by volunteers and chartered helicopters manned by trained SAR operators and observers. The main search is being directed by National Guard SAR and C-SAR personnel with direct input from Steve’s staff pilot on his habits and intentions.
Eric Ahlstrom
Program Manager, ALSR
775-302-6762 cell
Have a look at this - having a hard time getting detail tho Alstrom responded to it.
Looks artifical and there is a faint "track"running South East from the anomaly towards the road/trail
"macdoc 1" lat=38.5843401273, lon=-119.24611447
Edited by MacDoc1 (09/11/07 07:11 AM)
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bkdelong
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All these screenshots are very helpful and valuable - please keep them coming alongside any KML/KMZ files you post.
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Feakins
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Just found this, what do you guys think?
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Domicile3
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I've heard some cannot see what I'm seeing. It might be because I'm using an expensive video card (nVidia 8800GTX)
This is not a good copy but I can email a better PDF file.
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/1870/aircrafteb2.jpg
The craft is aprox 30 feet southwest of pointer. The plane pointing in a NE direction.
It looks like a single engine aircraft, wings intact but covered with a lot of dirt. I've measured it to be 25' wingspan and 30' long. The tarp looks to be 20'x20' and can be seen most easily.
Email domicile3@gmail.com for a PDF file.
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Feakins
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Closer...
give the Co-ords ( View>Status bar)--that way we can check for ourselfs danescombe
Edited by danescombe (09/11/07 06:08 AM)
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