barnettalejandro
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Reged: 09/09/07
Posts: 20
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Dear community, AND TEAM OF FOSSETT RESCUE SURVEY.
I request if the tem in charge of the survey can add to the map 4 points.
A) The location of he old wrecks, to compare us the images we see on the survey.
B) Exact rectangular area survey by planes and helicopters, so we can add efforts to the area niy survey by planes.
C) please pointed, 4 corners, with lat and longitude, and the areas you already survey, to focus efforts in other areas.
D) We can also post a request to the RADIO AFICIONATED community on the area, mabye they can get a signal if Mr. Fosset have a small radio, or if he can transmit in other frequency.
E) Please up-date a feedback , with the rescue tem on the web, that way, we know what areas, your survey from the internet post information, and what areas you want we foccus the effort.
I keep praying, he can doit......
Lets keep working....
My best
ALEJANDRO BARNETT
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PRSurfer
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Reged: 08/15/05
Posts: 16
Loc: Puerto Rico
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The layer loads satellite Images after Fossets Disappearance...
I am using the (mechanical turk) AMAZON made available which uses Images of the Search Area after Fosset disappeared... (So if you are seen other satellite images It will not show on GE)...
more info here: http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/
-Plane(found by Lee) posted in a comment at techcrunch forum...
Just trying to help in the search...
The plane (looks yellow) could possibly be just a search plane flying , but if this type of placemarks are all put into a layer, this could help elimitate false positives, everybody can help...An official administrator could mark the false positives and people can look in other areas...
If search planes had GPS the routes searched could be presented and other planes and volunteers could look elsewhere...
Lets help it is good karma!
Andres aj.acosta@yahoo.com --------------
Anybody with KML or no KML knowledge please feel free to help in Fosset's search... Place Placemarks , network links or anything you find that can help in the search.... I will be refreshing the files with the info added as soon as I can!..
Give info on your shared post placemarks... thanks
-------------------- PRSurfer
freebrainworking@yahoo.com
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pipcelot
First Post
Reged: 09/09/07
Posts: 1
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I did load the KML file and then went to work. (not following the instructions on Amazon Mechanical Turk)
This put me on the spot, because I think I might have found the plane, but I have no clue how where to post that information.
I could be wrong (probably I am) but I can't just close Google Earth and go to sleep without at least doing something about it. (thus this post)
Please someone look at 38°34'56.09"N 119°24'24.39"W and if you think it is something, then please let the right people know.
pip
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Delta102
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Reged: 07/07/05
Posts: 4985
Loc: U.S.A.
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See This post
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Pets of the Google Earth Community / Do's and Dont's / All Aircraft in flight / Tools that help and answers to FAQ / How to add pictures to your placemarks and posts
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bkdelong
Explorer
Reged: 07/29/05
Posts: 99
Loc: Salem, MA, USA
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Forgive me, but I'm not seeing a thing.
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bkdelong
Explorer
Reged: 07/29/05
Posts: 99
Loc: Salem, MA, USA
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According to this blog post the plane we've all found is most likely in-flight as that area has been searched.
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PRSurfer
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Reged: 08/15/05
Posts: 16
Loc: Puerto Rico
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For some reason, i believe ( server congestion) sometimes the requested new satellite images don't load or are slow to load clearly...
Try unchecking the layer or restarting Google Earth, it has happen to me that too. Sometimes it doesn't focus... But I tried later and it worked!
I am no expert but or close to it but I think server congestion is the reason you dont see it...
-------------------- PRSurfer
freebrainworking@yahoo.com
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JasonBo
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Reged: 08/18/05
Posts: 270
Loc: Austin Texas
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RENO, Nev. - Rescue crews searching for famed millionaire adventurer Steve Fossett stumbled upon more false leads Sunday when they discovered more plane wreckage — but didn't find the missing aviator or his plane. ADVERTISEMENT
"Once again, you had your hopes raised and dashed, just as we have," Nevada Civil Air Patrol Maj. Cynthia Ryan told reporters during a news conference.
Rescue crews spotted two old wrecks, one of them from a U.S. Navy plane, southeast of the private ranch where Fossett was staying 80 miles southeast of Reno when he took off Monday for what was supposed to be a three-hour flight.
The false alarm further dampened spirits of the rescuers, whose chances of finding the 63-year-old Fossett alive in the rugged, concealing landscape of western Nevada are becoming more and more slim.
"The mood is very somber but very focused," Lyon County Undersheriff Joe Sanford said.
At least eight times during the search, rescue crews have spotted airplane wreckage they thought might be Fossett's only to learn it was from crashes years and sometimes decades ago.
To some, that is an ominous sign of how hard it will be to find the aviator.
"That's always a possibility — that he may never be found," Lyon County Undersheriff Joe Sanford said. "But I'd like to believe that with our state-of-the-art technology, the chances of finding him are much better."
Fossett, a former commodities trader who was the first to circle the globe in a balloon, is considered an expert pilot and survivalist. Search teams have tried to remain optimistic but acknowledged the futility was beginning to take a toll.
"It's not frustrating, but tiring," Nevada National Guard Capt. April Conway said.
Leaders of the search-and-rescue operation have tried to put the best face on the discoveries of previously unknown crash sites. At the very least, they say, the finds have demonstrated that crews can indeed spot small planes from the air.
The search has spread across an area of 17,000 square miles, twice the size of New Jersey. Crews will continue combing sections of that vast landscape, but on Sunday they began focusing on the territory within 50 miles of the ranch. Most crashes occur within that radius during takeoffs or landings, Ryan said.
"We've got close to 100 percent covered, at least in some cursory fashion," Ryan said. "We have to eliminate a lot of territory."
The discovery of at least six previously unknown wrecks in such a short time has been a stark demonstration of the odds against finding Fossett's single-engine Bellanca Citabria Super Decathlon.
The Florida-based Air Force Rescue Coordination Center, which is helping coordinate the search, maintains a registry of known plane wreck sites.
The registry has 129 entries for Nevada. But over the last 50 years, aviation officials estimate, more than 150 small planes have disappeared in Nevada, a state with more than 300 mountain ranges carved with steep ravines, covered with sagebrush and pinon pine trees and with peaks rising to 11,000 feet.
"The mountains are quite rugged, and things don't always get found," said Maj. Cynthia Ryan of the Nevada Civil Air Patrol.
Once the search for Fossett is over, or significantly scaled back, inspectors from the Federal Aviation Administration likely will be sent to each of the newly discovered wrecks. They will try to identify the pilots and bring closure to their families, agency spokesman Ian Gregor said.
No human remains have been found at any of the crash sites discovered so far. But that's not a surprise, given their age and that the region is populated by coyotes and mountain lions.
News of the old wrecks has prompted inquiries from people wondering if the pilots or passengers may be long-lost family members.
"We received an e-mail from (a Florida man) and he said 'You know, that could be the wreckage of my father's airplane and it dates back to 1964.' He said if we can possibly find out any more he'd be happy to know about it," Ryan said.
Searchers are holding out hope of finding Fossett, said Sanford, the Lyon County undersheriff.
"With the resources and assets we have, I feel comfortable we'll find the plane in the near term," Sanford said. "Whether it'll be by us, a hunter or a skier, we'll find it. I like to believe the glass is half full." http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070910/ap_on_re_us/steve_fossett;_ylt=Ak5BPKhrBVR7DtwbjECXMLGs0NUE
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barnettalejandro
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Reged: 09/09/07
Posts: 20
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Fossett, anomaly, ( Look like snow but have T pattern ) Point located by Alejandro barnett abarnett@entelchile.net, it looks like snow, but have T pattern, the definition of the image is not clear, but must be check by a plane on the area. sizes Match
We have to continue working, i have read several histories of sea mans, save in roug seas without fresh water for days, we need to continue all the efforts.
we dont want Mr. Fossett, get convertet in the male simbol like Amelia Earhart , " even iwhen for sure they share the same passion to fly "
Finger cross, lets do a good effort in the next 2 days, dont lose the faith.
ALEJANDRO BARNETT
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DaveTroy
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Reged: 08/07/05
Posts: 6
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I have some reservations about stating that the image here (38 28' 55.50" N, 119 24' 18.14" W) and discussed here (http://www.iconnectdots.com/ctd/2007/09/is-this-steve-f.html) and elsewhere is in fact a plane in-flight.
If the airplane pictured was in flight, I would expect that it would appear very slightly larger than if it were sitting on the ground.
I measured the wingspan of the aircraft as-is and it came to 29.19 ft. Nose to tail it is 25.23 ft. The spec of the Bellanca Super Decathlon lists the wingspan at 32ft.
I freely admit that it could be a flying plane, but it seems to me that this is very likely a crash site of a small plane. Otherwise it's a *very* small plane flying quite low.
Also a recent article said that the last anyone saw of his plane was near Mt. Patterson, which is only 5.65 miles from this site.
Perhaps my math and/or reasoning is off but this still looks like a candidate to me. Thoughts?
Edited by DaveTroy (09/09/07 06:57 PM)
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