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Re: Humans Make Poor Robots
      01/24/08 05:13 PM

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To the two posters who dissed the process of wild-assed guessing, you have missed the point completely. Humans function by processing the best information available, making a hypothesis (or wild-assed guess), then testing it and reevaluating the hypothesis based upon the results. We do very, very poorly at monotonous and repetitive tasks that require monitoring of complex systems (like overlays in Google Earth.)
B.





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Hi B,
I am the one that said running off half cocked on a Wild-assed guess is a waste of time as I have in the real world have seen the results of this, as one that has spent many hours at the controls of an airplane beating my face half off on a door post from time to time trying to keep the greasy side down so my spotters can see something while looking for some poor SOB that had a accident, or sitting in the back of a herc hanging on for dear life for hundreds of hours looking at trees, water, ice, sun etc . I think I know a little bit about what I'm talking about here, in Canada we have a search program that works very well some will know what I mean by the CSAD ( CANADIAN SEARCH AREA DEFINITIONS ) and depending on what kind of search we are requested to do we have a proven system that works and it is based on a system we have been using since WW II (modified many times of course) to present time, this is a time proven system that works based of many things and one of them is facts not guesses .By the way many different counrty,s that use the military to handle thier SAR work use our CSAD system as its proven to be effective,if you want to sit and work up seniaro's about would have, could have, should have, please be my guess and knock yourself out at it but where in world would we ever get enough money to run off and check out each little wild-assed guess you talk about , lets get real here some objects will never be found until someone actually steps on it like the Air Canada crash outside Vancouver it was missing 53 years until some deer hunters stumbled on top of it, it was flown over hundreds of times some days and no one seen it in 53 years, a friend of mine found a C180 on floats that was missing 11 years and we flew over it many many times in that 11 years hunting and fishing but one day he noticed something shinning down in the trees and investigated it futher and it was the missing aircraft he just happened to look at the right spot at the right time and bingo there it was, there was a 10 day search when it first went missing by the way, wreckage was in a heavily wooded valley like many are out west so it does sometimes take little miracles to find them and as I just stated it takes time lots of time in some cases and sometimes possibly never,

Sorry for my long winded novel here but just trying to share some of my sar experiences with the new members and I have no problem at all with people coming up with thier own senarios but we have to use what's best for all concerned and be willing to help even if we don't agree sometimes to the way its being done............AL

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