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Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe
      07/12/06 01:38 PM

I think that today we are mature enough as a nation to look in a mirror and say that, yes, we did expell most of the arabs of then Palestine, during and right after the 1948 war.
And honest enough to say that we had no other choice but to do it, because otherwise the creation of Jewish national state would be impossible.

It is also worth noting, that for the most part the inhabitants of the evicted villages were not innocent bystanders. Most of the mature male arabs in Palestine took active part in the attempted genocide of the Jewish population, initiated by neighboring Arab states.

Let's have no illusions. Had we lost the 1948 war, the entire Jewish community of Palestine, including those that had just excaped the claws of the Nazis, would have been massacred. It was us or them. Had we kept the majority of Arabs here, the Jewish state would have been impossible - instead living in the middle of Tel-Aviv would have been like living in the middle of Gaza or Hebron today. This is not why we came here, is it? This is also the reason why there must never, ever be any way for the refugees to return - otherwise we will simply loose the state.

I have no regrets, although I do recognize the tagedy of the situation. We have no way back, to the past where the millions of us would again be subject to the whim of some nation suddenly gone insane. The chief purpose behind the creation of Israel - "Never Again" - has to be maintained, and for it to be maintained, Israel must by necessity stay a jewish nation-state - no way back, no refugee return. That's just it. On the other hand, the palestinians have no way BUT back, because the Arab states refuse, on purpose, to assimilate them, by that reducing them to a status of weapon against Israel. They fight for what they see is justice, but our ideas of what is just are completely opposite.

So, here we are. All that remains to be said, is this -
We, the Jews of Israel, either accept that the UN decision to create the state of Israel in 1948 was wrong, and we are not worthy of sovereignity - and then the only honest thing left to do would be to pick up the luggage, go to airport and fly straight to some place like Canada or Australia...
Or, we forget about our silly attempts to try to stay with our hands clean while living in the slaughterhouse, and we start maintaining the law and order here - OUR law and order - using the same methods King Hussein used during Black September and Assad used in Hama. They are still in power, are they not?

If we will keep on refusing to accept the fact that we are in the Middle East, and not on the beach of Geneva Lake - consider the first option, and emigrate to Europe. Ah, and don't forget to visit Auschwitz on your way there. That just might remind you of the reason that was for the state you just gave up on.

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* Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Thameen_Darby 02/12/06 08:22 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe atomwatch   08/09/06 11:34 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Myron_J   08/07/06 04:23 AM
. * * Cartographic Vandalism TOPlanner   08/05/06 11:55 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Hanaq_Botas   07/31/06 05:22 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- Data and Thoughts Myron_J   08/01/06 07:58 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- Data and Thoughts jo_raedtaha76   08/02/06 01:40 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- Data and Thoughts Hanaq_Botas   08/02/06 06:51 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- Where to Rebuild the House Myron_J   08/02/06 09:14 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Thameen_Darby   08/01/06 03:49 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe p0ul1234   07/30/06 05:11 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Haron   07/25/06 03:02 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Thameen_Darby   07/29/06 05:28 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Hanaq_Botas   07/25/06 08:55 AM
. * * Re: Welcome Circassian Myron_J   07/25/06 08:21 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe esterrettModerator   07/13/06 10:47 AM
. * * Appropriateness of the Discussion/Placemarks TOPlanner   08/06/06 07:02 PM
. * * Re: Appropriateness of the Discussion/Placemarks KempsterModerator   08/07/06 09:38 AM
. * * Re: Appropriateness of the Discussion/Placemarks TOPlanner   08/07/06 04:26 PM
. * * Re: Appropriateness of the Discussion/Placemarks vasechek   08/07/06 03:21 PM
. * * Re: Appropriateness of the Discussion/Placemarks ben_and_his_bong   08/06/06 07:24 PM
. * * Re: Appropriateness of the Discussion/Placemarks TOPlanner   08/07/06 03:55 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Thameen_Darby   07/19/06 03:34 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe webnut2000   07/25/06 03:24 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe DmitryR   07/12/06 01:38 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe ben_and_his_bong   07/12/06 11:17 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe psarj   07/12/06 08:27 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe eliboy22   07/12/06 03:10 AM
. * * Only the palestinians remained as post ww2 reugees shlomosh   07/11/06 03:25 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe ben_and_his_bong   06/24/06 05:19 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Thameen_Darby   06/26/06 09:33 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe - Info Hanaq_Botas   06/19/06 04:55 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe - Info Thameen_Darby   06/26/06 10:05 AM
. * * Malha-Al Maliha Myron_J   06/19/06 08:12 AM
. * * Re: Malha-Al Maliha Thameen_Darby   06/26/06 10:10 AM
. * * Re: Malha-Al Maliha Hanaq_Botas   06/19/06 04:31 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Propaganda localt   06/17/06 09:07 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Propaganda Thameen_Darby   06/26/06 10:23 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Thameen_Darby   06/13/06 10:57 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe AndyPol   06/24/06 10:01 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Thameen_Darby   06/26/06 10:32 AM
. * * Bias of placemarks, propaganda use of Google Earth barryannarbor   06/08/06 07:40 AM
. * * Re: "Ethnic cleansing" was caused by Arab States webnut2000   06/17/06 02:11 PM
. * * Re: "Ethnic cleansing" was caused by Arab States Thameen_Darby   06/18/06 02:54 AM
. * * No bias Thameen_Darby   06/16/06 01:55 PM
. * * Re: No bias vasechek   07/30/06 04:48 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe TOPlanner   05/02/06 07:55 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Thameen_Darby   06/26/06 11:02 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Thameen_Darby   06/16/06 01:27 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe fkhateeb   04/19/06 03:28 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Gerardo64   04/19/06 09:04 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Myron_J   06/12/06 02:39 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe vasechek   07/30/06 05:09 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Aniksker   08/01/06 06:30 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe vasechek   08/01/06 11:15 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Myron_J   08/01/06 07:34 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- A Naive Israeli?? Myron_J   07/30/06 08:50 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- A Naive Israeli?? vasechek   08/01/06 11:00 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- A Naive Israeli?? Jaydinator57   08/03/06 08:38 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- recognizing it as a prerequisite Myron_J   08/03/06 11:12 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- A Naive Israeli?? vasechek   08/03/06 10:54 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- A Naive Israeli?? simon_pdavid   08/08/06 02:47 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- A Naive Israeli?? epl18   08/10/06 01:47 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- A Naive Israeli?? scottkarin   08/08/06 08:44 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- A Naive Israeli?? fkhateeb   08/08/06 11:16 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- A Naive Israeli?? scottkarin   08/09/06 07:42 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- A Naive Israeli?? TOPlanner   08/08/06 06:11 PM


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