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Re: No bias
      07/30/06 04:48 PM

Thameen,
Your effort is commendable and your position in limiting the scope of the layer to a certain collection of data pieces is understandable. However, have you considered that in the absense of your clearly stated intent for creating this layer and with the one-sided nature of your collection of data points you make it very easy for the willing to jump to certain conclusions. It is a sad fact that most do NOT go back to history books and limit the research done in order to form (or confirm) an opinion or even an ideology to the easily available (Internet) resources - especially the ones that only provide a maximally concentrated set of data points that are easy to digest. Can you convince yourself that after reading your original post and reviewing your data none of your readers (institutionalized mental cases notwithstanding) will jump to the conclusion that Jews have perpetrated vicious and unprovoked genocide against the Arab population of Israel and therefore today there can be no justice until all of those villages that your collection includes are re-built and their Arab inhabitants are allowed to return there? Would you take responsibility for the minds (and actions that the state of these minds bears) of even 0.5% of the 1400+ (according to one of your posts) of those that have downloaded your collection and used the information to come to a conclusion of hate and justify hateful actions, including physical violence, on the parts of themselves or their brethren?
Information is a tricky thing. It can be used as a weapon. History is tricky, too, and no single fact or event in history is not contested by two or more opposing views or even witness accounts of that "fact" or event. Throughout the history, history has been used for propaganda and incitement. The mechanism is simple and very effective - present a highly concentrated set of "factual evidence" (all furthering one single idea while omitting any information that might contradict the idea) using the language, statistics and/or images that can lead the subjects of the exercise to a single conclusion - the idea behind the dataset.
I don't want to make any conclusions about yourself or anyone else in this e-community, but isn't the purpose of this community to add something positive, constructive and useful to the world? And, if so, isn't the responsibility of each poster to weigh the potential benefit vs. damage that might be caused by their post. One of your grateful readers apparently plans to teach his kids about the "land that was stolen from us" using your data as visual aids. He's probably not the only one to make use of your collection in that way. Are you contributing to the solution or the problem of the existing conflict between Arabs and Jews?
To the moderator who is trying to de-politicize the discussion - the original post and layer can be (and are) interpreted by most in the community as highly political, reflecting on one of the most serious and violent conflicts in the modern world and appears to support an opinion on one of the sides in the conflict (whether or not that is the intention of the author). Why are controversial layers, such as this one, which could be classified as ethnic propaganda, allowed on GE, but the discussion of the issues raised by the original post is censored?

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* Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Thameen_Darby 02/12/06 08:22 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe atomwatch   08/09/06 11:34 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Myron_J   08/07/06 04:23 AM
. * * Cartographic Vandalism TOPlanner   08/05/06 11:55 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Hanaq_Botas   07/31/06 05:22 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- Data and Thoughts Myron_J   08/01/06 07:58 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- Data and Thoughts jo_raedtaha76   08/02/06 01:40 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- Data and Thoughts Hanaq_Botas   08/02/06 06:51 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- Where to Rebuild the House Myron_J   08/02/06 09:14 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Thameen_Darby   08/01/06 03:49 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe p0ul1234   07/30/06 05:11 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Haron   07/25/06 03:02 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Thameen_Darby   07/29/06 05:28 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Hanaq_Botas   07/25/06 08:55 AM
. * * Re: Welcome Circassian Myron_J   07/25/06 08:21 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe esterrettModerator   07/13/06 10:47 AM
. * * Appropriateness of the Discussion/Placemarks TOPlanner   08/06/06 07:02 PM
. * * Re: Appropriateness of the Discussion/Placemarks KempsterModerator   08/07/06 09:38 AM
. * * Re: Appropriateness of the Discussion/Placemarks TOPlanner   08/07/06 04:26 PM
. * * Re: Appropriateness of the Discussion/Placemarks vasechek   08/07/06 03:21 PM
. * * Re: Appropriateness of the Discussion/Placemarks ben_and_his_bong   08/06/06 07:24 PM
. * * Re: Appropriateness of the Discussion/Placemarks TOPlanner   08/07/06 03:55 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Thameen_Darby   07/19/06 03:34 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe webnut2000   07/25/06 03:24 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe DmitryR   07/12/06 01:38 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe ben_and_his_bong   07/12/06 11:17 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe psarj   07/12/06 08:27 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe eliboy22   07/12/06 03:10 AM
. * * Only the palestinians remained as post ww2 reugees shlomosh   07/11/06 03:25 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe ben_and_his_bong   06/24/06 05:19 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Thameen_Darby   06/26/06 09:33 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe - Info Hanaq_Botas   06/19/06 04:55 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe - Info Thameen_Darby   06/26/06 10:05 AM
. * * Malha-Al Maliha Myron_J   06/19/06 08:12 AM
. * * Re: Malha-Al Maliha Thameen_Darby   06/26/06 10:10 AM
. * * Re: Malha-Al Maliha Hanaq_Botas   06/19/06 04:31 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Propaganda localt   06/17/06 09:07 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Propaganda Thameen_Darby   06/26/06 10:23 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Thameen_Darby   06/13/06 10:57 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe AndyPol   06/24/06 10:01 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Thameen_Darby   06/26/06 10:32 AM
. * * Bias of placemarks, propaganda use of Google Earth barryannarbor   06/08/06 07:40 AM
. * * Re: "Ethnic cleansing" was caused by Arab States webnut2000   06/17/06 02:11 PM
. * * Re: "Ethnic cleansing" was caused by Arab States Thameen_Darby   06/18/06 02:54 AM
. * * No bias Thameen_Darby   06/16/06 01:55 PM
. * * Re: No bias vasechek   07/30/06 04:48 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe TOPlanner   05/02/06 07:55 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Thameen_Darby   06/26/06 11:02 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Thameen_Darby   06/16/06 01:27 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe fkhateeb   04/19/06 03:28 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Gerardo64   04/19/06 09:04 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Myron_J   06/12/06 02:39 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe vasechek   07/30/06 05:09 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Aniksker   08/01/06 06:30 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe vasechek   08/01/06 11:15 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Myron_J   08/01/06 07:34 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- A Naive Israeli?? Myron_J   07/30/06 08:50 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- A Naive Israeli?? vasechek   08/01/06 11:00 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- A Naive Israeli?? Jaydinator57   08/03/06 08:38 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- recognizing it as a prerequisite Myron_J   08/03/06 11:12 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- A Naive Israeli?? vasechek   08/03/06 10:54 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- A Naive Israeli?? simon_pdavid   08/08/06 02:47 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- A Naive Israeli?? epl18   08/10/06 01:47 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- A Naive Israeli?? scottkarin   08/08/06 08:44 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- A Naive Israeli?? fkhateeb   08/08/06 11:16 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- A Naive Israeli?? scottkarin   08/09/06 07:42 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- A Naive Israeli?? TOPlanner   08/08/06 06:11 PM


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