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Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe
      07/31/06 05:22 PM

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Hi Thameen:

I noticed you updated the file. Great. I'll keep putting comments on the locations:

Your placemark for Kafr Bir'im , a Christian village on the Lebanese border, depopulated in 1948 and levelled in 1953, is very close. 300 meters southwest the church is still standing; at least it was when I visited there May 1997. See my placemark. The site is now a national park around an antique synagogue excavated there (before 1948 as far as I know), 50 meters north in the upper left corner of the grass field.

Some people of Kafr Bir'im apparently went or were transported to Jish , three kilometer southeast, that still exists as a village, 500 meters east of your placemark. You put it as a destroyed village and a still existing one at the same time. There might be some truth in that, as part of the original population might have fled after some atrocities in 1948. Walid Khalidi does not mention Jish as a destroyed village. I would like to hear more facts from people there.

I repeat a main source for the destroyed villages:

Walid Khalidi (editor), All that Remains. The Palestinian Villages Occupied and Depopulated by Israel in 1948 , Washington D.C. 1992.
It's also available in Arabic. It's quite expensive now, but libraries should have it or order it at the
Institute for Palestine Studies in Washington.

Three earlier remarks of mine, that you already included in your update, I mention here, so that anyone can react:

- Of Suba , located on a hilltop, only the antique (Byzantine) fundaments of the village are left, as an archeological dig, now belonging to kibbutz Tsuba to the west.

- Bayt Thul I visited with a former villager, her son, his wife and 4 grandchildren. We had a picknick at the ruins of their house on the southern slope of the hill there. They showed me the wells and the rubble where the house once stood. Apparently many stones were used to make a lookout-point.

- The village basin of Imwaz, destroyed in 1967, is clearly visible. The area is now called Park Canada; the village was turned into an archeological (Roman) site along the water from the hill, southeast. It's now a picnic area were I noticed both Jewish and Palestinian visitors.

All the best,

Hanaq

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* Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Thameen_Darby 02/12/06 08:22 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe atomwatch   08/09/06 11:34 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Myron_J   08/07/06 04:23 AM
. * * Cartographic Vandalism TOPlanner   08/05/06 11:55 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Hanaq_Botas   07/31/06 05:22 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- Data and Thoughts Myron_J   08/01/06 07:58 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- Data and Thoughts jo_raedtaha76   08/02/06 01:40 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- Data and Thoughts Hanaq_Botas   08/02/06 06:51 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- Where to Rebuild the House Myron_J   08/02/06 09:14 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Thameen_Darby   08/01/06 03:49 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe p0ul1234   07/30/06 05:11 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Haron   07/25/06 03:02 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Thameen_Darby   07/29/06 05:28 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Hanaq_Botas   07/25/06 08:55 AM
. * * Re: Welcome Circassian Myron_J   07/25/06 08:21 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe esterrettModerator   07/13/06 10:47 AM
. * * Appropriateness of the Discussion/Placemarks TOPlanner   08/06/06 07:02 PM
. * * Re: Appropriateness of the Discussion/Placemarks KempsterModerator   08/07/06 09:38 AM
. * * Re: Appropriateness of the Discussion/Placemarks TOPlanner   08/07/06 04:26 PM
. * * Re: Appropriateness of the Discussion/Placemarks vasechek   08/07/06 03:21 PM
. * * Re: Appropriateness of the Discussion/Placemarks ben_and_his_bong   08/06/06 07:24 PM
. * * Re: Appropriateness of the Discussion/Placemarks TOPlanner   08/07/06 03:55 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Thameen_Darby   07/19/06 03:34 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe webnut2000   07/25/06 03:24 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe DmitryR   07/12/06 01:38 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe ben_and_his_bong   07/12/06 11:17 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe psarj   07/12/06 08:27 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe eliboy22   07/12/06 03:10 AM
. * * Only the palestinians remained as post ww2 reugees shlomosh   07/11/06 03:25 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe ben_and_his_bong   06/24/06 05:19 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Thameen_Darby   06/26/06 09:33 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe - Info Hanaq_Botas   06/19/06 04:55 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe - Info Thameen_Darby   06/26/06 10:05 AM
. * * Malha-Al Maliha Myron_J   06/19/06 08:12 AM
. * * Re: Malha-Al Maliha Thameen_Darby   06/26/06 10:10 AM
. * * Re: Malha-Al Maliha Hanaq_Botas   06/19/06 04:31 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Propaganda localt   06/17/06 09:07 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Propaganda Thameen_Darby   06/26/06 10:23 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Thameen_Darby   06/13/06 10:57 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe AndyPol   06/24/06 10:01 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Thameen_Darby   06/26/06 10:32 AM
. * * Bias of placemarks, propaganda use of Google Earth barryannarbor   06/08/06 07:40 AM
. * * Re: "Ethnic cleansing" was caused by Arab States webnut2000   06/17/06 02:11 PM
. * * Re: "Ethnic cleansing" was caused by Arab States Thameen_Darby   06/18/06 02:54 AM
. * * No bias Thameen_Darby   06/16/06 01:55 PM
. * * Re: No bias vasechek   07/30/06 04:48 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe TOPlanner   05/02/06 07:55 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Thameen_Darby   06/26/06 11:02 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Thameen_Darby   06/16/06 01:27 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe fkhateeb   04/19/06 03:28 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Gerardo64   04/19/06 09:04 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Myron_J   06/12/06 02:39 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe vasechek   07/30/06 05:09 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Aniksker   08/01/06 06:30 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe vasechek   08/01/06 11:15 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- The Palestinian Catastrophe Myron_J   08/01/06 07:34 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- A Naive Israeli?? Myron_J   07/30/06 08:50 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- A Naive Israeli?? vasechek   08/01/06 11:00 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- A Naive Israeli?? Jaydinator57   08/03/06 08:38 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- recognizing it as a prerequisite Myron_J   08/03/06 11:12 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- A Naive Israeli?? vasechek   08/03/06 10:54 PM
. * * Re: Nakba- A Naive Israeli?? simon_pdavid   08/08/06 02:47 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- A Naive Israeli?? epl18   08/10/06 01:47 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- A Naive Israeli?? scottkarin   08/08/06 08:44 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- A Naive Israeli?? fkhateeb   08/08/06 11:16 AM
. * * Re: Nakba- A Naive Israeli?? scottkarin   08/09/06 07:42 AM
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