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#1236174 - 07/02/09 07:01 AM Kárpátalja magyarul / Subcarpathia in Hungarian ***** [Re: syzygy]
syzygy Offline
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Registered: 10/06/05
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hi!
in this post all i would like to share some data of a Hungarian Kárpátalja /Subcarpathia/ map. (map overlay is off as default in attached KMZ!)
Hungarian settlement and geographical names (settlements, rivers, passes, peaks, mountain chains, some spring and important river merging)
signed with placemarks and paths.
(also paths are clickable to be able to check map feature names as rivers or mountain chains. in some cases info bubble contains link to further information).
The settlement names stay "empty" to display this posting when in GEC layer.

I recommend that also download the
Historical Hungary border line set
for a complete understanding of the subject!

instant credit for settlement names:
Hungarian/Ukrainian (in Cyrillic) name list for Subcarpathian settlements inhabitad by Hungarians /
A kárpátaljai magyarlakta települések névjegyzéke

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Hungarians in Ukraine

Population of the Hungarian ethnic community: 156,600
(in the whole of Ukraine, based on the data of the 2001 census). The estimated figure is approximately 200,000.

Territorial distribution:
The vast majority of the Hungarian population is concentrated in an area of 12,800 km², in Zakarpats'ka (Kárpátalja) county.
According to official data, 151,516 persons of Hungarian ethnicity live in the Beregszász (Berehove) district /raion/ (close to 200,000 according to their own estimate), and in parts of the Ungvár (Uzhhorod), Munkács (Mukacheve), and Nagyszőlős (Vinohradiv) districts /raions/.

Isolated ethnic Hungarian communities inhabit the Upper-Tisza region. Ethnic Hungarians live in scattered communities in the valleys of the Upper-Borzsa (Bilke, Ilosva /Irshava/), the Upper-Latorca (Szolyva /Svalyava/), and the Upper-Ung (Perecsény /Perechin/, Nagyberezna /Velikyi Bereznyi/).
However, 84 percent of the Hungarian population is concentrated in a 20-km strip along the Hungarian border.

Geographic settlement:
Most Hungarians live in river valleys, and in flatlands suitable for farming. They usually reside in sparely populated villages. Among the larger towns, Beregszász (Berehove) was the only one in which Hungarians constituted until the 2001 census a very small majority.

Urban population: 53,598 ethnic Hungarians
(Ungvár /Uzhhorod/ – 8,000; Munkács /Mukacheve/ – 7,000; Beregszász /Berehove/ – 12,800; Nagyszőlős /Vinohradiv/ – 3,171; Técső /Tachiv/ – 2,640; Rahó /Rahiv/ – 1,282; Huszt /Hust/ – 1,759; Csap /Chop/ – 3,659; Ilosva /Irshava/ – 107; Szolyva /Svalyava/ – 322).

According to 2001 data, the ethnic Hungarian communities in Lviv, Kyiv, Ivano-Frankivsk, Kharkiv, and Odesa number only a few hundred persons.

read more from source: -The Situation of Hungarians in Ukraine in 2006-

more about Zakarpattia Oblast on wikipedia

related from GEC: Transcarpathian villages (German transscription)


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g


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#1237076 - 07/04/09 11:25 PM Re: Kárpátalja magyarul / Subcarpathia in Hungarian [Re: syzygy]
Diane9247 Moderator Offline
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Registered: 01/15/07
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Nice post, G - it made me curious...

Americans of Hungarian ancestry are concentrated most heavily in only four states: Ohio, New Jersey, New York and Pennsylvania. (It is interesting to see a small outlier group in North Dakota!) Of course, there are Hungarians scattered all over the country, but "The map and the following list show communities in which 1,000 or more people listed an ancestry group, and in which at least 5 percent of those people said they were Hungarian." By far the largest percentage of total population is in the small town of Kiryas Joel, NY, with 18.9%.

Source, 2000 census. See also the list of cities in this link.
Quote:
The above map shows U.S. cities with the highest percentages of people of Hungarian ancestry. Move your mouse over points on the map to see city names and percentages, and to link to in-depth community information.

Hungarians in America can trace their roots to several movements. Political refugees came here in the mid-19th and the mid-20th centuries. Others were driven by economic pressures in the late 1800s and early 1900s.

In the 2000 census, 1,398,702 people in the U.S. claimed Hungarian ancestry.
Perhaps since the 2000 census a few more cities around the Great Lakes have earned a blue dot. People of Hungarian ancestry are rare on the West Coast. First generation Hungarian-American sightings are even less likely. owink I have personally met only two - one in San Jose in about 1975 and one in San Francisco in 2000. Endangered species! otongue grin
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#1239747 - 07/12/09 11:39 AM The Székely National Council's initiative [Re: syzygy]
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Registered: 05/22/06
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Loc: Hungary
The domainname allocation and supervision organization the ICANN, (dated May 13) approved - the abbreviation siculitas - the .sic at the highest level, so this may be Szeklerland's own Internet domain.

The „Siculitas” can be translated today as Szeklers, but in the Middle Ages it was a self-governing community with its own administration, which provided independent liberty rights to the community. The .sic domainname this way refers not only to a regional identity but to the historical roots of the Szekler freedom as well.

The distinctive domainname can help Szekler people in the preservation of their cultural and ethnic identity.

Please support with your signature the initiative to change the Domainame .sic to all of the Szekler local governments, institutions, companies and individuals.

Website:
http://pontsic.org/hu/

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#1241296 - 07/17/09 02:41 AM Hungarians in the USA [Re: Diane9247]
syzygy Offline
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Registered: 10/06/05
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Loc: Hungary
hi diane!
thanks the great link!
i could not resist and have made a placemark list down to 6% of Hungarian inhabitants.
also have marked the one settlement in MI, and the two in ND.


was very glad to find the homepage of the
American Hungarian Foundation
and see they have been working well since 1955.


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#1245542 - 07/31/09 06:28 AM Csángó Hungarians [Re: syzygy]
syzygy Offline
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Best way to introduce a group of people is telling their story,
so here you are some information about Csángó Hungarians.

Numerous settlements placemarked with their Hungarian names,
polygons of population distribution and two map overlays in attached KMZ.

Settlement names stay empty to display this posting when in layers.

/need to fix location of settlements with question marks/
(Underlined settlement names sign placemarks of KMZ file)


I recommend that also download the
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for a complete understanding of the subject!]



Chronology of the History of the Moldavian Csángó Hungarians
(1211-1947)


1211
Endre II, King of Hungary settles a German order of knighthood on both slopes of the Eastern Carpathians with the aim of defending the frontier.

1225
The King drives the knights who wanted to be independent of him out of the country. Instead of them Hungarian frontier-guards arrive, the first group of the ancestors of the present-day Moldavian Hungarians.

1227
Cumanian Roman Catholic Episcopate is established in Milkó in Moldavia (land of the Cumanians that time) with Hungarian secular and church support, to promote the spiritual care of the baptized Cumanians. The Cumanian bishop is a member of the Hungarian episcopacy. Canons, priests, soldiers and working people move to Moldavia from Hungary to ensure the work of the new episcopate.

1342
Lajos the Great, King of Hungary sets up a voivodship out of his vassal territories east of the Carpathians under the name of Kara Bogdania. The name Moldavia appears later.

1371
Roman Catholic Episcopate is established in Szeret (szeret means 'it loves')

1460
King Mátyás hounds the Hussites in Hungary, so they escape to Moldavia. Here they found the town Husz, three villages, and Csöbörcsök on the bank of river Dnyeszter.
(One time most eastern Csángó Hungarian settlement)


1457 - 1504
Moldavian voivode István the Great invades Transylvania several times during his reign. He settles the Hungarian captives to Moldavia.

1479 - 1493
Because of the cruelty of Transylvanian voivode István Báthory, many of the Szeklers escape to Moldavia.

1534
The Moldavian Franciscan cloisters get their priors from the motherhouse in Csíksomlyó

1571
The vicar of the town Tatros converts the Hungarian Hussites around Husz and Románvásár back to the Catholic faith.

1574 - 1591
Chancellor of Moldavian voivode Petru Schopu estimates the number of Moldavian Hungarians at 20.000.

1600 - 1606
In the time of voivode Jeremias Movila, the Moldavian bishop Bernard Querini finds 1.591 Catholic, mostly Hungarian families in this area, 10.704 people, in 15 towns and 16 villages. He explains the decrease in their number by the destruction caused by the Tartar invasions. From this time the episcopate in Bákó has been in Polish hands for 200 years.

1607
From the documents of the Parliament in Marosvásárhely: "In the time past very many poor people ran to Moldavia because of the lots of needs and miseries of the deprived country."

1612
The Parliament in Szeben orders the "watching of the roads and paths going to Moldavia", and also that "if the poor want to leave Transylvania with their wife and cattle, they must not be allowed, but impeded and given back to their landlord.

1622
The pope declares Moldavia a mission area.

1634 - 1653
Voivode Vasile Lupu asks Rome for a spiritual leader for 12.000 Moldavian Catholic believers.

1641
Apostolic Vicar Peter Diodat gives a detailed account of the settlements of the Moldavian Catholic Hungarians and the number of their inhabitants.

1648
An even more detailed report by Marcus Bandinus, Apostolic Administrator of Moldavia, sent to the Saint Congregation of Missionary Work on his canonical visitation.

1671
Szabófalva and five other villages write a letter of complaint to the Saint Congregation about the missionaries' abuses of power, and they say if the injury is not redressed they will put themselves under the orthodox bishop's authority.

1707
Most of the kuruc army (Hungarian freedom-fighters in the 17th and 18th centuries) defending Székelyföld escapes to Moldavia from before the troops of Austrian general Rabutin. Noblemen afraid of revenge go with them. They can return only in 1711.

1764
In the early hours of 7th January, Szeklers called together to a discussion to Csíkmádéfalva are strafed by the Austrian imperial army. The survivors of the massacre, together with the mass of the intimidated people of that area, escape to Moldavia. Some of them go on to Bukovina where they found five villages, the others settle down among the Hungarians in Moldavia. Their most important villages are Frumósza, Pusztina, Szerbek and Lészped. They are called the Székelys of Bukovina.
(also two settlements must be introduced because of their beautiful Hungarian names: Istensegíts (God help us) and Fogadjisten (Accept God's will) /Hungarian greeting/)

1781
While escaping, Péter Zöld, vicar of Csíkszentlélek, visits the Hungarian settlements in Moldavia. In his report sent to the bishop of Gyulafehérvár he writes about the priests of the Moldavian Hungarians: "All the missionaries are Italian who cannot speak either Romanian or Hungarian, and they serve the nine Hungarian parishes in a very poor way."

1807
Austrian consul Hammer, residing in Jászvásár, reports the figures of the Roman Catholic parishes in Moldavia to Vienna: 10 settlements, 4.182 families, 21.307 people.

1827
Hammer's successor, consul Lippa mentions more than 50.000 Hungarians.

1851
A Moldavian schematism lists 22 parishes, in 16 of which people speak Hungarian. The 22 parishes mean 208 settlements, since several villages belonged to one parish.

1866
Josef Salandri, head of the Moldavian Catholic Mission, publishes a bilingual (Romanian-Hungarian) catechism in Jászvásár.

1884
The Mission is wound up, and a Roman Catholic Episcopate is established in Jászvásár.

1889
Camilli, bishop of Jászvásár, writes in his episcopal letter: "We order that in parish churches all prayers prescribed by the Pope's Episcopal Letter must be said in Romanian, and not in any other languages."

1898
The Great Geographical Dictionary of Romania is published in Bukarest, in which you can read: "Most part of County Bákó is Romanian ... but among the rural people old settlements of Hungarian origin can be found where they still keep their language and religion ... There are settlements of hundreds of families where the inhabitants can say not even a word in Romanian. Such are Forrófalva, Klézse etc.

1905
An essay by Radu Rosetti titled "On Hungarians and Moldavian Catholic Episcopates" is published in the annals of the Romanian Academy in Bukarest. Rosetti estimates the number of Moldavian Hungarians at 50.000-60.000 and also says that "there must have been considerable Hungarian population settled down in the valley of river Szeret as well as in the valley of Tatros when the Moldavian state was established (in 1342)."

1915
Hungarians in Lujzikalagor ask for permission to use their mother tongue in church. Bishop Camilli's answer: "Applicants should know that the people's language in Romania is Romanian and it cannot be anything else. It would be injury against his own nation and also a shame on himself if anyone in this country spoke a foreign language such as Hungarian for example."

1938
Text of a local notice: "We, Mayor of Ferdinánd (Újfalu) in County Bákó, according to the order of 3rd May, 1938, No. 7621, of the Prefect of County Bákó, inform the habitants of the village that it is forbidden to speak any other language than Romanian in the village hall and in other public places. The language of masses in Catholic churches must be Romanian or Latin. Priests and cantors must not sing the church songs in other language than Romanian ... Each person offending against these regulations will be severely punished."

1940
On the occasion of removing the habitants of five Hungarian villages from Bukovina to Hungary, about one thousand Moldavian Hungarians move to settle in Hungary.

1946 - 1947
More than one hundred Hungarian schools are founded in Moldavia. These are wound up in several years. The Hungarian school in Lészped exists until 1959.

Compiled by Péter Halász
source: csángó.hu (great page in English)


For centuries, the self-identity of the Csangos was based on the Roman Catholic religion and the Hungarian language spoken in the family. It is generally accepted by serious scholars (Hungarian but also Romanian) that the Csangos have a Hungarian origin and that they arrived in Moldavia from the west. Whatever can be argued about the language of the Csangos there is no doubt that this is Hungarian.

2001 Report of the Council of Europe
The Council of Europe has expressed its concerns about the situation of the Csángó minority culture, and discussed that the Csángós speak an early form of Hungarian and are associated with ancient traditions, and a great diversity of folk art and culture, which is of exceptional value for Europe. It was also mentioned that although not everybody agrees on this number it is thought that between 60 000 and 70 000 people speak the Csángó language. The Council has also expressed concerns that despite the provisions of the Romanian law on education and the repeated requests from parents there is no teaching of Csángó language in the Csángó villages, as a consequence, very few Csángós are able to write in their mother tongue. The document also discussed that the Csángós make no political demands, but merely want to be recognized as a distinct culture and demand education and church services in the Csángó language.
In the time of this report's release, the Vatican expressed hope that the Csangos will be able to celebrate Catholic masses in their liturgical language, Csango.

It is difficult to estimate the exact number of the Csángó because of the elusive nature and multiple factors (ethnicity, religion and language) of Csángó identity.

As far as ethnic identification is concerned, in the census of 2002, 4,317 declared themselves Hungarians and 796 declared themselves Csángó in Bacău County, reaching a total of 5,794 out of the county's total population of 706,623. The report of the Council of Europe estimates a Csango population ranging from couple of tens of thousands to as many as 260,000 (the total Catholic population in the area).

In terms of religious affiliation, the total number of Roman Catholics in Moldavia is 239,938 (2002 census), but only 43% of these live in settlements where Hungarian is spoken. As far as language use is concerned, the Council of Europe gives estimates that put the total number of Hungarian-speaking Csángó people between 60,000 and 70,000, "Although not everybody agrees on this number"

Hétfalusi Csángók (Hungarian):
http://www.kislexikon.hu/hetfalu.html
http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hétfalusi_csángók

Read The Csángó anthem in Hungarian and English on wikipedia .


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