#993484 - 06/18/08 01:19 PM
Re: Facts are Facts...
[Re: Suzyquad]
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Your opinion....SF more likely to fly over a mountain or around it?
How long would it take SF to fly down LBC...past Hawthorne and then maybe take Cotton Wood Canyon back to the Flying "M"?
Possible SF could have made a wrong turn and flew up a dead end canyon...that he could not turn around in or fly over the top?
1. I do believe around it...
2. depending on speed and what if anything he was looking at...30-45mins..
3. In your theory going to Hawthorne, he would be flying down canyon...
4. Any dead end canyons in the CWC area can be ID'd as such when flying up/over CWC
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#993485 - 06/18/08 01:20 PM
Re: Facts are Facts...
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I followed your bread trail...but did not see anything out of the ordinary..It's like trying to spot a deer in the middle of a wheat field 
The big problem as I see it..first we must find the proper haystack...then we can look for the needle...and by the way...the needle is close in color to it's surroundings..
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#993486 - 06/18/08 07:24 PM
Time issues?
[Re: vanaj]
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Report that confirms ''11am as last spotted'' and also states, ''less than 20m from ranch''. Given the limited facts we know, am of the opinion that RB's sighting, if good enough to be used in court, is good enough for me! Am now near convinced that last sighting was as stated, Mud Spring area at 11am. We have to go from there! Quote:
Rick Rains, a sheriff's supervisor of the San Diego County Sheriff's Department, said Fossett's plane was last spotted at 11 a.m. less than 20 miles from the ranch's airport. "Given the timeline and the sighting of Fossett's plane, I believe he was within 20 to 25 miles of the ranch when he crashed," Rains said.
But, he noted, "the terrain is very difficult to search, with many areas where the crevices, deep ravines and closely grown trees make it impossible to see from the air what is on the ground."
"If Fossett was physically able to find water to survive on in the Nevada desert, he would have been physically capable of signaling searchers, by doing something as simple as crafting a large X of sticks or rocks, or by starting a signal fire," Rains said.
In affidavits supporting his wife's petition, Fossett's doctor described the 63-year-old man as physically and mentally fit.
Robert Keilholtz, a captain in the California Civil Air Patrol who was involved in the search, noted that the difficulty in finding wreckage was underscored by the fact that World War II-era plane wreckage was discovered last spring in the mountain range.
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#993487 - 06/18/08 08:33 PM
Re: Time issues?
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Am now near convinced that last sighting was as stated, Mud Spring area at 11am. We have to go from there!
Might I suggest Mud Spring Road...I hear it has a lovely view and you can get quite a bit of exercise moving rocks and changing tires....
Sorry my friend...couldn't resist that one...just a little friendly poke...first pint or so is on me next time...
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#993489 - 06/18/08 09:03 PM
Re: Time issues?
[Re: redlands19]
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You can be a right bitch at times!  Beer is on me tho, as you lot would never find it anyway!
Now that sounds like a compliment coming from you...I'll take it and the brew...
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#993490 - 06/19/08 07:32 PM
Re: Lucky Boy Pass
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when i use flight simulator i always have to convert deg decimal minutes to lat and long deg /min /secs, because flt sim is lat and long here is an easy chart for this http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/bickel/DDDMMSS-decimal.html
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#993491 - 06/20/08 08:25 AM
Re: Lucky Boy Pass
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k...this one is definitely not a tree.  sitting at 38.496855 -118.895220
Edited by pineshi (06/20/08 08:26 AM)
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#993492 - 06/20/08 03:39 PM
Re: Lucky Boy Pass
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k...this one is definitely not a tree.
sitting at 38.496855 -118.895220
More that likely just a bush..here is a photo in that exact area... taken at 38.496800,-118.896578
The tree in the center of the image is most likely the one at the bottom of you image just outside the enhancement circle..
Edited by vanaj (06/20/08 03:41 PM)
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#993493 - 06/20/08 11:18 PM
Re: Lucky Boy Pass
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not hard to see that a plane going down hard- losing its gear and wings would disappear into that stuff and be really hard to find, from any search means
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