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#1165469 - 10/17/08 04:22 PM Re: Summary 12 Months on. ** [Re: avi8orn8]
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Hey, just wanted to say I'm very happy to have finally run across an active forum on the Fossett discovery. I've read the past 20 pages already, but have got a couple of questions for anyone interested in replying:

Does anyone know of more quality crash site photos out there beyond these? http://www.flickr.com/photos/rockwellb/sets/72157607737959209/

Anyone have any updates on the DNA analysis of the alleged "human" bone?

I really hope the NTSB report will shed a little more light on the possible cause. Out of the myriad of theories proposed so far, incapacitation seems to carry the most weight IMHO.

NW




Welcome to the forum...

These are the only high quality images from the site that were published by a member of the recovery team...in the upper left corner of each image you will see a small box labeled "All Sizes" click on that and you will see the original size image...usually pretty large with better details...the person taking the images was allowed to post them to the public as long as there were no images of personal effects or body parts...I do believe this permission came before the searchers actually reached the site.

There has been no information released as of yet on the "bone" found...

The NTSB can take up to a year to issue the Probable Cause report...the third and final report...there are links to the preliminary and Factual reports in this thread...

There is also the original thread that goes back to Sept 2007 in the archives..this contains about 5600 post as I recall...

Here is the link to the prelim report..

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20070917X01399&key=1
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#1165470 - 10/17/08 05:55 PM Re: Summary 12 Months on. [Re: vanaj]
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Here's a link about a Piper crash near Bridgeport, CA in 2004
http://www.aircraftone.com/aircraft/accidents/20040720X01011.asp

The circumstances this pilot encountered may be similar to possible options that Steve may have faced.

According to GE, the terrain at the Piper site 38.1555, -119.2311 allowed the pilot to survive.


Edited by thymeout (10/17/08 06:40 PM)

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#1165471 - 10/18/08 05:12 AM Re: Summary 12 Months on. [Re: thymeout]
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#1165472 - 10/18/08 10:24 AM Re: Summary 12 Months on. [Re: thymeout]
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Here's a link about a Piper crash near Bridgeport, CA in 2004
http://www.aircraftone.com/aircraft/accidents/20040720X01011.asp

The circumstances this pilot encountered may be similar to possible options that Steve may have faced.

According to GE, the terrain at the Piper site 38.1555, -119.2311 allowed the pilot to survive.




Much like this one... 36.822214, -118.355716 you will need to turn on terrain to see just how close they came to making it over the ridge...

Info from NTSB report...

PROBABLE CAUSE(S) PILOT IN COMMAND - CONTINUED FLIGHT INTO KNOWN AREAS OF SEVERE TURBULENCE

WEATHER - DOWNDRAFT,UPDRAFTS
PILOT IN COMMAND - IMPROPER IN-FLIGHT DECISIONS OR PLANNING FACTOR(S)
WEATHER - HIGH DENSITY ALTITUDE
TERRAIN - HIGH OBSTRUCTIONS
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#1165473 - 11/04/08 07:51 PM Re: Summary 12 Months on. *DELETED* [Re: canwhitewolf]
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#1165507 - 10/17/08 04:11 AM Summary 12 Months on. *DELETED*
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obviously we are not the NTSB - that is an agency that investigates plane accidents.
our role is to pinpoint an area of the likely crash area so we can get imagery for that particular site.
that should have been done in the beginning of the search.
that meant interrogating witnesses.
unless we want another scenario of the past year's work with Fossett imagery, then we bury our noses in what is irrelevant to us and pursue the case like we are NTSB investigators.

what i am trying to do is prove that witnesses did come forward in the beginning of early fossett search. they got discounted.
for reasons unknown, the place for imagery got chosen for us.
we searched believing in what got picked for us to search which went nowhere for finding him. others got found.
i read an interesting site where MONO SAR went in to search in the Fossett crash area and found nothing. they searched low.

as an internet search group volunteers, we figure out where the accident is.
how it happened is not our business. that is up to NTSB.


Edited by pineshi (10/17/08 04:49 AM)

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#1165508 - 11/05/08 12:36 AM Re: Summary 12 Months on. *DELETED* [Re: Pineshi]
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#1206231 - 03/17/09 04:37 AM Final /Factual Report; NTSB. [Re: no_stranger]
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The Final/Factual report by the NTSB can be downloaded HERE.
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